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[parsley]

I am one of the lunatic fringe. Oooo, you can tell by my, ...er....grocery shopping.

I want to buy NON-GMO food.

I AM that customer, the one who buys non GMO that you seem to want to question, but I'm not in your store because I don't want to buy your kind of flax muffins. I also pay a premium for NON-GMO muffins.

So I'll reply on behalf of myself:

No, I don't want 2% GMO'd flax, nor 5%.

Nor do I want to buy 13.7 % GMO'd potatoes in my bag, either! <p></p>
<p class="EC_style8ptBK"><strong><a href="http://www.scidev.net/en/news/gm-potato-uses-frog-gene-to-resist-pathogens.htmlFXYU">(Granted, I love the old fashioned mashed potatoes and gravey too much to be tempted.)</a></strong></p>
You don't seem to like beets. You probably don't even want beets in your grocery bag, but maybe you advocate preferences are only for beet haters; but you'll devour the potatoes which I do not prefer. (I won't insist on you buying beets.)

So your position is, every consumer should accept, at the very least, a % of GMO flax and even be receptive and accepting to increasing it to 100% GMO flax, because it is, according to the word of an anonymous poster named fransisco,... 100% safe.


Indeed.

[parsley]

I wouldn't miss trying to make this one work, lol:

http://www.scidev.net/en/news/gm-potato-uses-frog-gene-to-resist-pathogens.html

Seems to off the radar for me now, so I'll post an excerpt because I think it will be tantalizingly appetizing for franny, and will also provide some background meaning to the intent of the original link in the post:

"A chemical that South American frogs excrete from their skin could protect potatoes and other crops from a range of diseases, according to biotechnologists in Canada.

Researchers at the University of Victoria inserted a modified frog gene into potato plants to make them produce the chemical."

[Hopperbin]

Actually google gm flax contamination and Parsley's notebook is the first to come up. So hopefully parsley and others can have some good insight, advice for consumers, it is a declining market one that western Canada has stuck to supplying for economic reasons. So Fran you should also be stating your facts there if not already, could be lots of economic fringe consumers and activists visiting there at the moment, my opinion.

[Hopperbin]

Oh crap did it again and the Greenpeace bastards are first in line.

[parsley]

charliep

The gene markers...ah, yes.

The trade can hunt down a gene marker buried in the Nile if it froze on Christmas morning if they chose.

All ports have gene markers.

The flax could be from GMO plots, both recorded and hidden anywhere in the world. TriffidHugh handed Triffid seed out like candy to school children.

Some Dutch farmer could have pocketed a head of Triffid when he visited a Canadaian farm and then went home and multiplied it.

Or most likely it was an importer who bought linseed and sold it as food.

That would be my pick.

And everyone winked. ha ha .

There is no blame
And won't be any,
There is no responsibility
And won't be any
And the pissing dance that is going on is merely optics.

GM Triffid farmers looked the other way, the trade looked the other way, the government regulators looked the other way, and all smelled fresh and clean until someone farted in the GM church, and now they sheepishly eye up each other.

No one owns the smell.

You know that, charliep.

But the obvious point for everyone, and I mean even the skeptics, is that our food is part of an experiment that is not controllable, and of which whose importance is not at the top of ag's agenda. Damn it.

We just saw what happens when shuffling feet replaces regulatory and agronomical and commercial responsibility.

Take a second look.

Food.

I'll leave you with a point I consider important.....there are a rare few who do not have some doubt about the unintended consequences of genetically modifying food.

And especially when we get to the eventuality when no one will stand up and says they are responsible for a gene clustermucking mess......because no one knows how to fix it.

Food.

As farmers, it's our most important consideration. IMHO

pars

[Fransisco]

So if you can't have your 100 per cent GM free muffin then even if the whole rest of the world wants GM muffins they shouldn't be allowed to have them. That makes a lot of sense.

[parsley]

Oh fran, you are dealing with what you will think is an unreasonable consumer. And the ones who buy food flax in Germany are just like me. It must be difficult for you.

I regret this postscript, but... if you happen to organize a mass vote to establish that the "discerning dining majority" that you are associated with, are demanding prions in their lamb chops, by feeding yearling lambs other ground dead lambs, why, I'd still say no, even if you are just dying for the prions. I am feeling a bit stubborn here. Pars

[Fransisco]

Sorry Pars but you don't speak for all Germans. And stuborn is not the word that comes to mind.

[rockpile]

Pars, I'm with you on this one. In my own practice, I kept chemicals and artificial fertilizers to a minimum, though it was never possible to eliminate them because of the soils, climate and surroundings. However, I have a friend in west central AB who usues clover ploughdowns and good rotations and has the most beautiful tilth and organic soil odor in the world, that in itself should be a tourist attraction. GMO is Jurassic Park, take genes from a Salmon and from a tomato, paint them on a 22 shell and fire it into a petrie dish, and wow, you have the flavor savor tomato, that can withstand a few more degrees of frost, though it has a wierd texture and 0 taste. A natural progression, I think not, I have yet to see a Salmon get horny and mate with a tomato. As far as marketing your unique product, void of the mainstream agribuss culture, you have my support to go forward on your own, Pars, you don't need the CWB and they don't need you. Times have evolved and the world changes. Are you ready for tomorrow and the challenges yet to be discovered? Rockpile

[furrowtickler]

This was just a crock, to send the price of flax down so they can rob flax growers blind of perfectly good flax for half of what it is worth. Just the buyers playing God.