BEST round 2

[frustrated1]

"all we are trying to do is help educate farmers"

Well, bring it on, that's all we're asking. You will not be getting a cheque for snake oil in a can. We want the education.

[seabass]

Fellas,I like you would like to know whats in it and how good it works(according to farmers results) but I can see why they are taking the try it, it works trust me approach. If you had taken the time to produce a product that helped farmers improve their soil,increase productivity and hence improve the bottom line for not much cost. Then to have a large company come in take over the market and run you out of business. I wouldn't like it and I don't think you would either. I know when we try new products we try to find out as much as we can about them. Then we try. If it works we keep using them or not. Maybe on this one using without knowing as much will pay off. JMO

[silverback]

Sorry, still not buying in yet.

Tell me how it is that you can get approval to sell a product in Canada and all you can say is "...trust me it will work just fine" without having to tell people what it is?

Natural extracts and other products? Good quality ingredients in the mix? Made in Edmonton (by whom)? CFIA testing is ongoing (when will it be done?)

Why do I get the feeling that if we went out and spread a bunch of DDG or brewers mash on our fields I would get the same results?

How about you name just one big time operator (in Canada) that uses your products on every acre and would be willing to swear to their efficacy? and would be open to taking phone calls from other farmers?

[furrowtickler]

Sorry to crash the party here, but like I have said we have talked to three independent farmers and the the results are all the same - possitive. I am not selling / promoting it. These are very, very credible scorces. We are going to try it based on first hand knowledge not some trade show spoke-a-meter b/s. Remeber the earth was flat according to the most inteligent minds b/f and during th time of Columbus, when the Sumerians knew other wise several thousand years before!
Playoff draft!!! Beer!! I will be lucky to get 2nd last. I will have a better reason/excuse tomorow. - Man, did we need this rain!

[Ron]

I will try to keep an open mind, I just finished a 15 hour shift last night and was on my blackberry while my helper drove back to camp as I couldnt see straight any more so I was beyond bitchy. I hope you keep us posted furrowtickler, it is just funny that these products are around but all we hear is the salesman selling, we seldom hear from the people that use them (and with the anonymity (SP?) of the internet why not admit if it was a wreck?

[furrowtickler]

Good point Ron, I just think very few do/are trying some of these products.

[bestaustralia]

Silverback/Frustrated1,

Frustrated1, call the person I mentioned earlier in Saskatchewan he can help answer any questions you may have. He farms almost 6,000 acres so he knows how it works and what it is doing.

Silverback, Sorry but I am not sure of the approval process in Canada. Best makes the product in Edmonton Alberta. I am not sure when testing will be completed please call the office in Edmonton and speak with Paul Seutter he should be able to shed some light on this.
There are many bigger operators in Canada using Best call the office in Edmonton I am sure they will help in getting you some names to call to discuss the results they have been getting.

There must be a few farmers using Best in Canada as there from my understanding well over 450,000 acres treated with Best in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

I am not sure how it works back there for information sharing amongst farmers. Sounds like most information comes from Government or chemical company information. In Australia there is a producer group in every area pretty much so that farmers can share what they are doing on their farms with other farmers both good and bad. They do independent evaluations of products to help make decisions on products to use on their farms.

[JDGreen]

I would like to try some on my farm. I farm 80 acres where do I sign up? ;-). Maybe I am to much bother for only 80 acres. This is what po's me .. I would willingly write the check to try this product on 80 acres for a couple years or whatever it takes. If it proves itself you get up to 10000 more.. The most retarded sales program I have ever encountered. "I'm sorry you can't have any because you won't buy 320 acres worth" Sorry but that in itself proves why we are all so skeptical. Perhaps you need to fire the idiot in charge of marketing and all you salesman might actually make a buck or 2 selling some product.. I even got the "we don't want to let the cat out of the bag cause the big bad compamies will steal it." Obviously there is nothing proprietary here or you would patent and license your crap. Rant over..

[makar]

If i remember the best i sprayed on the crop came in 200 acre shots. I 2 would keep small plot testing on a small scale but you cant. With the assie organic matter content increase claims, i wonder how much i can increase my om by using best on my summerfallow.

[makar]

Someone smarter please educate this not so smart uke. .5 om increase a year. That is 10000 lbs a acre. What kind of crop is this? 1000 bu corn? As a wild guess if 50 bu barley is half seed half om returned 50lb x 50 bu =2500. And i know om does not grow that fast, at least what i have seen. Is not a claim of 10000 lbs like 200 bushels of barley? I smell a rat. Like i said, i used it and believe it has merit but geez. My land is only 1-3 om to start with.