Canola the Retarded Sister of Soybeans!

[SASKFARMER3]

You ask why I say this? Its simple the
seed companies took what we were growing
and turned it into a crop that is worth
millions to the chemical and fert and
seed companies.
$10.00 a lb for treated seed, that's
treated with shit that doesn't even kill
flee beetles first off. I don't mind
paying huge dollars for seed but their
has to be advancements from what I had.
Some on here don't know what Westar
Canola was. Well its one of the first
that we grew and it grew great yields.
One wreck every once in a while but it
grew and yielded. Now we pay through the
nose for shit that has nothing to offer
better than the polish varieties we use
to grow.
Yes we can spray with Roundup or Liberty
etc. But it should be about a fair
return for the farmer.
Well what were getting from these
companies is a shit product for a huge
price.
Canola is way more expensive to grow
than just about any crop out their.
Back in the day it paid a premium to
growers over Soy. Well today its trading
3 dollars less a bushel and the market
still believes we have a bumper.
Simply as a long time grower the sooner
the soy get developed for shorter season
growing the sooner the better.
Canola will go the way of the Dodo Bird.
WE had a great crop for Canada and the
Pigs mined it and left us with a shit
product.

[TOM4CWB]

SF3,

Did you have a bad night?

I agree Soy would be nice as an option to Canola... but at 35bu/ac and $13.50... close to $500/ac isn't bad when $250 should cover variable expences and equipment.

Hope you harvest goes better...

Cheers!

[agstar77]

There will be a number of 02 bean varieties released next year, book your seed now.

[agstar77]

Soybean harvest is underway in some areas of Manitoba. Harvest will be done by the end of September. Yields should be in the 25 to 35 area, some as high as 50 in areas that received rain in August. Area seeded to beans 800,000, probably double next year. Most farmers are fed up with canola.

[Daylate]

this will be the first year in the last 12 that i will say "i should have seeded more wheat and less canola this year"
25bu by $14 at $300/ac. expense or
55bu by $8 at $270/ac. expense
I'm done with my hard canola rotation now that we have wheat as a cash crop as well. Thank You Harper Government!

[Fransisco]

You can thank the environmentalists for the seed treatment that doesn't kill flea beetles. Someone, somewhere saw a black bird fly a little funny after eating some treated canola once and boom, bye bye seed treatment that actually works.

I agree with the wheat comment. After years of trying to grow as little of it as possible we'll now be putting in as much as the rotation can handle. Thanks Harper for getting the wheat board monkey off our back.

[Burbert]

Time will tell boys/girls, time will tell,
relative to monkey business in Comedian
framing. Muder nature has a bit to du wit
current market conditions, methinks!

[tubs]

welcome to my world saskfarmer we usual get 20 bushel crops around here thar why i grow alot of open pollinated seed alot cheaper ,

[sumdumguy]

I think that despite all the breeding, check-offs,
high price seed and licensing fees, farmers
expect a bit more than costs back.

[SASKFARMER3]

A very long day all really shitty fields done. Yea
it's going to be one hell of a year, bite my cheek.
Sum I agree farmers should get more from their
seed than money back. Breaking even is getting
sick.
Tom do you think our new varieties are way way
better than the old westar.
Me thinks I know your answer is no.
We're getting screwed with way over priced seed.

[furrowtickler]

You throw westar into todays rotations and direct seeding you would not get 5 bus/ac on stb. If you did the 1 in 4 on smf, it may do O.K. at best now. The new varieties are not majic beans from some story book, there are alot of factors involved today that were non existant thirty years ago. I have seen 60 bus canola on canola stb over the past 3 years - not mine but in the area- same area this year is full of disease. Just saying L150 was not a proven variety even last year, neither were some Dekalbs or others. Guys last year bitched about how short and ugly some 73-45 was , complained about no stuble but it yieled good, fine but in this area it was a great year for 90% of the other varieties for standibility. If a variety goes down then, whats going to happen when... We need to do our own research on these new varieties - some are great, some are dogs. Some areas I know , it did not matter what is was, it was shitty. But some will still stand up and out from others - take note...

[Burbert]

Ya but the big guys/girls know what
they're doing, then they get 70 Bu canola,
per acre, butt theys metric bushels,
lottsa bs bushels grown in our area 2...

[SASKFARMER3]

Furrow what I am saying is Westar had
traits that made it a great variety. These
new Canola's that are Hybrids are BS.
Hybrid Corn vs conv big difference. The
Canola hybrid is BS. Were now paying 10
dollars a lb for shit. Do you agree?
Because back in the day westar had a bad
year it was 24 or 20 not 10 6 and 15 like
some in our area are getting. Plant shuts
down when a down pour happens.

[Hopperbin]

What do beans cost to grow anyway? Are they much healthier than the peas around here? No beans here yet as season is too short. Was expecting 15 bushels from the first field and looks like it may get to 25. Pretty sure westar would have been 10 and diseased and blacklegged even worse. Plus would have had to spray poast, muster, and lontrel, and possibly more than once cause we have been cropping continuous now a long time , do any of them chemicals even do anything for cleavers? We used to have better crop trials, seems they are all scewed to produce and sell a new variety these days.

[sewen]

I agree with the new varieties not being proven
yet, I loved 9590 but bayer threw it out with the
bath water.