soybeans 2015?

[freewheat]

Riders. It is my opinion that guys HAVE been lucking out on soy. Yes early frost will kill them and shrivel the seed.

Also, the moisture of late has contributed to the luck factor, soy do not like dry weather at flowering and podding and filling. Big areas of the west have lucked out with southern Manitoba style growing seasons for several years. Maybe it is the new normal? But then high grain prices were the new normal too! lol

I think honestly, it has lulled breeders and growers into a false sense of certainty of production.

Just my opinion. I have no doubt that breeding will bring early enough maturing varieties for western Canada. I just think we are not there yet, daylength sensitive or not.

But if we return to more typical first frost dates, and heat with no rain at the critical times, soy will be forgotten for a while.

[bgmb]

Northstar seeds is based in neepawa, they sell forage corn and grass seed.

Northstar Genetics is the soybean seed company, Nadeau seeds should have any variety you want or will put you in touch with a dealer.

[dalek]

Guys have been pushing their luck with beans all over. I start out planting 2900 chu beans and work my way down to 2650, 5-6 varieties from Country Farm Seeds every year. A few guys around have been pushing that out to 3100 chu varieties but they got stung last year, should be some backing off now.

[riders2010]

Just considering trying some on a small scale. I look at canola and wheat days to maturity and some of that scares me if we continue wet so I just can t see how long term a 120 day crop works. Some of the info I gained is that it's not all about chu but it's more about light sensitivity of different varieties. At least that's what I ve been told.
If they could ever get those days to maturity down
Say good bye to canola as the benefits are huge.

[Klause]

I do t know why I was thinking the two northstar are the same... However i recall picking up bean seed in Neepawa at that location so they were a dealer at some point.






It is about daylight sensitivity but not all varieties are the same...


Northstar beans shut down hard when the days get shorter... Brett Young beans just kinda start to sorta do something that resembles shutting down.

[dalek]

Daylight sensitivity is a big difference in how they do with adequate heat units. Without the heat units, no amount of light will save a crop

[freewheat]

Interesting comment DaleK. Because the guys selling the seed sure push the daylength theory hard. No doubt, daylength helps some. If it were not for daylength, the Peace area would not be so farmable.

But are you, who are in an actual soy area saying heat units matter more?

[dalek]

If it were all about daylight, Yellowknife would be a hotbed of soybean activity.
If you have a variety that's adapted to the growing season you have, then daylight becomes a big factor. From what I've seen and heard from up around Thunder Bay, when the companies know their varieties are borderline for an area, they start focusing on daylight instead to try to make sales.

Here where we have all kinds of different varieties that are adapted for our growing season, I've never once heard a salesman mention day length or daylight. I have no doubt that it influences pod development and fill, but if you don't have the heat units for the plant to make it to maturity, light isn't going to help you.

[freewheat]

Thanks for that insight, Dale. Interesting.

[MBgrower]

Heat units more important. As stated, cant grow beans in yellowknife. You can almost here them grow on those hot summer days.