• You will need to login or register before you can post a message. If you already have an Agriville account login by clicking the login icon on the top right corner of the page. If you are a new user you will need to Register.

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

China cancels more Soybean orders!

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #11
    Amen. The world of living with tighter carryovers expectations is feast or famine. Volatility and risk management are the name of the game.

    Comment


      #12
      I wish I could cancell without repercussion
      contracts when the markets goes against me , or
      for, depending on pricing situation.

      If the international buyers are buying on a basis
      are they still committed to take delivery in the
      future? Again if the system is full, and the gorilla
      doesn't want it, then what?

      Is there a time limit on the so called cancelation
      time period? If the system is full, not many other
      gorilla out there feeding on beans( talking about
      china). The exporter could be blocked from doing
      other business (there a car gill type conspiracy
      theory in the making, especially if they were to
      "collude" with the buyer, creating hardship forbthe
      competition )or forced to ship and discount, travel
      to pick up the check with a souvenir t shirt, or
      what else could happen?

      Comment


        #13
        Your right Rareearth. The is unbelievable that.
        People can just walk on this stuff. I've said it
        before and I'll say it again, a lot of overseas
        buyers do not operate like farmer do on contracts.
        But unfortunately it's a reality.

        In most of these cases, these cancellations are
        done well in advance of them being shipped ( the
        last round cancelled in mid nov was for jan
        shipment and I hear this last 420 k tonnes was for
        feb) vs the shipp being loaded with it no where to
        go. So technically yes, that "basis" contract is in
        most cases renotiated and shipped. Most being
        the key word. This year iI would say most will be
        renegotiated with the problems on the Mississippi
        and striking workers on the west coast, not to
        mention a short supply of beans. Also this year
        not a problem having a full system so no worries
        in that regard.

        If is not shipped, can be sold to another exporter,
        importer, etc. lots of other people to deal with in
        the world.

        Most farmers would be shocked to see how
        people in the world try to operate.

        Hope this makes the mud a little clearer.

        Comment

        • Reply to this Thread
        • Return to Topic List
        Working...