End of preharvest

[SASKFARMER3]

Wise it's parts per million your drinking water is worse. Plus two weeks fall weather washes the plant at harvest time once.

Then harvest grind and make flower bread.

Oh one other note father use to spray in open tractor no mask and probably uses leather gloves to fill.

He will be 90 soon.

Just saying none of us know when our 15 min is up.

Killing a practice with no science behind is idiotic.

Without we would have to swath to make crop come in and most would grade way lower.

[LEP]

After reading the article it made me laugh. Italy is known for buying a 3cwad with protein and blending it. Nothing matters but price and 13 protein.

[farmaholic]

Could definitely be an issue for those who rely on it as a harvest aid. We don't, used to do some peas and lentils at times but now the peas get Diquat products. Once we had such a thick canopy of lentils the only thing Diquat did was brown the tops, what ever it touched. Glyphosate would have worked better, translocated, ...maybe slower but at least the whole plant would have died!

Timing can be tricky in variable(high and low spots) land, low land can hang on a long time after the high ground would be ready for an app.

Maybe its time to lobby for saflufenicil to be registered as a dessicant In all crops or have the MRLs established so it doesn't impede exports.

Our main dessicant is an 08 MacDon 150.

[fjlip]

The real "unwise guys" are the farmers that are applying glyphosate to crops that are too green, trying to speed up harvest. Glyphosate is not for desiccating wheat. Period.

Agree, said this many times, it is registered ONLY for weed control, NOT a desiccant. If you are getting desiccation your crop is TOO green, probably lose bushel weight too.

You are supposed to spray at the same time you could swath. We swath close to combining, some times ahead of the combine. Neighbor sprays and we combine the same time.
Weed kill much better post harvest, no tracks, less stress/busy.

[helmsdale]

Agree, said this many times, it is registered ONLY for weed control, NOT a desiccant. If you are getting desiccation your crop is TOO green, probably lose bushel weight too.

You are supposed to spray at the same time you could swath. We swath close to combining, some times ahead of the combine. Neighbor sprays and we combine the same time.
Weed kill much better post harvest, no tracks, less stress/busy.

Some guys recreationally spray like we used to recreationally drag a cultivator. Bored and it's hot outside? Come up with yet another reason to jump in the air conditioned sprayer and create an income tax deduction.

Each to their own, but labels are there for a reason.

[sumdumguy]

The sooner we get the message, the better because Europe will shut out all Canadian grains and it won't be pretty. They just happen to be our most lucrative special crops market and I get it. Furthermore, I don't particularly appreciate glyphosate in my bread. Just sayin!

[farmaholic]

Farm size and a limited harvest window has made glyphosate a way to manage harvest. Do soybeans and corn weather/downgrade in the long season areas? Alot of crops we grow are very sensitive to adverse fall weather....I understand why large farmers dont want to swath thousands of acres of cereals. Pulses and nematodes to India, flax and triffid to Europe, durum and glyphosate to Italy. What better way to suppress prices.....in the end didn't the durum to Italy test safe for glyphosate MRLs

[SASKFARMER3]

This is a very sore point with me. Since 1981 we have used fall applied glyphs with our high lift sprayer. Yes the first was a brought in from USA crude machine. But it worked and we were able to strait cut wheat without any problems and grade factors since that first fall application. Its not about sitting in a sprayer and you have nothing better to do. Its about killing weeds and bringing in a even crop in eastern part of saskatchewan.

To the guys who say they swath just before and do ok. Ha what a crock of shit. We have one neighbour trying to strait cut beside us and then arguing with elevator about his green kernels or tough grain and we haul in nice dry clean product.

Its a tool in tool box.

glyphs is not the enemy but a way to farm a lot easier in Shit hole saskatchewan.

Swathing is nice time consuming cost system. works for some but most doesn't. Now if you farm in desert of SW saskatchewan yea they have natural dry down. Its called heat.

Weed control is way better in August than late october spraying. Thistles are putting food down to roots and when you spray they are gone.

I would quit farming if i had to go back to old way of waiting for it to dry down.

Then fall rain happens and every thing stays green till freeze up.

[sk_wheatking]

I would quit farming if i had to go back to old way of waiting for it to dry down.

Well you better get ready to call ritchie brothers because I've been saying it for years, pre harvest anything will be banned sooner than later. That's just a fact.

Somehow though I think that if the ban came down this afternoon you'd still be putting in a crop next year.

[SASKFARMER3]

yes your right but i would start the three year planning to exit. Last year wall to wall canola and were out of here.

Swathing you get sprouts, tough wet shit, some times you luck out but usually a shower hits and your harvesting tough.

Strait cutting you may as well call it October. Because you will have to wait for a fall killing frost to get most of the green out.