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    #11
    Originally posted by bucket View Post
    Never seem one of those gluten testing machines at the elevator. ...

    Don't remember anyone worrying about gluten when developing new varieties.....


    And I thought low gluten wheat should command a premium.....


    For humour only....but it's worth thinking about
    Sorry gluten strength is likely the wrong word.

    Basically RS makes really good bread that hold together well.

    Everything else makes lower quality bread that doesn't hold together.

    Comes down to how good of dough and thus bread they can make with it.

    Then again I don't know anything bout making bread so take it at face value.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Kinger View Post
      Sorry gluten strength is likely the wrong word.

      Basically RS makes really good bread that hold together well.

      Everything else makes lower quality bread that doesn't hold together.

      Comes down to how good of dough and thus bread they can make with it.

      Then again I don't know anything bout making bread so take it at face value.
      That last comment was priceless.

      So falling number then instead of gluten strength? ...but I thought they were kind of synonymous?

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        #13
        Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
        That last comment was priceless.

        So falling number then instead of gluten strength? ...but I thought they were kind of synonymous?
        No two dif issues. FN is indication of sprouting and enzyme activity. Gluten is the elasticity of dough.

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          #14
          Thanks for the clarification, it really comes down to what the grain creates as a finished product.

          Good bread sells for more dollars than bad bread.

          RS makes good bread

          CPS, CNHR, etc make lower quality bread.

          Hence the discount.

          If it's going into feed market, I honestly have no clue which is better.

          Segregation wise, it'll be a different bin. Same as canola and beans. Might be some blending but no one wants to put a load of Faller in a bin of red spring accidentally. Wouldn't be much fun.

          This is likely an oversimplification but hey it's Friday.
          Last edited by Kinger; Jul 28, 2017, 16:39.

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            #15
            Sort of like when the dumbass dumped canola on flax at the elevator.....

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              #16
              CGC lowered tolerances for GRASSHOPPER damage...must have heard it's dry some places...just to hurt you more!

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                #17
                This is a stupid system of having a 100 different classes for wheat. All this is for is keep bureaucrats employed at CGC and plant breeders etc. Most bread in the world is made from US hard red winter and most of it ends up on the same pile. We could do the same thing except when the millers want something specific they can IP if and use container shipping. The US wheat grower does not invest in tin cans all over the country side. They haul is most at harvest and keep some on farm storage. The amount spent on storage and segregation is enormous and just a loss of efficiency.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ajl View Post
                  This is a stupid system of having a 100 different classes for wheat. All this is for is keep bureaucrats employed at CGC and plant breeders etc. Most bread in the world is made from US hard red winter and most of it ends up on the same pile. We could do the same thing except when the millers want something specific they can IP if and use container shipping. The US wheat grower does not invest in tin cans all over the country side. They haul is most at harvest and keep some on farm storage. The amount spent on storage and segregation is enormous and just a loss of efficiency.
                  Would it make any dif it we only had 1 class and 1 grade? Ritz still gave elevators 3 months to take delivery before any penalties kick in and left it up to farmers to negotiate with multi national company on what that penalty would be.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
                    Would it make any dif it we only had 1 class and 1 grade? Ritz still gave elevators 3 months to take delivery before any penalties kick in and left it up to farmers to negotiate with multi national company on what that penalty would be.
                    ........more crazy talk. Careful wmoebis, you will get labelled a whiner and complainer!

                    By the way, where is Gerry Ditz now anyway?

                    .....they get 90 days of free storage of your high priced grain, then when the prices of grain drop they can buy that cheap grain instead of taking delivery of your expensive grain. "Inventory and price management".

                    I wonder if there will be any delayed deliveries of earlier(summer) contracted grain this fall in lieu of cheaper uncontracted harvest time grain! .....NAH!!!!!!

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