Nitrogen prices

[SASKFARMER]

Just got a fax looks like someone is finally taking on Agrium and Saferco etc and bringing in cheap out of country nitrogen and shipping it in empty rail cars from the coast to farmers in western canada.
I hope farmers jump at this cheaper product for to long we have been getting skinned in western canada by a few companys whos profits have steadily increased while my income has steadily decreased.
A fert retailer I told this to last fall about bringing in cheaper nitrogen he said they would love to but when he checks his contract with Cargil it says he will loose his buisiness if he attempts to bring cheaper product to compete against them.
What a wonderfull world economy, as a farmer I have to get paid on the world market but when I try to bring in cheaper product from the world my hands are tied.
great country.

[rook]

have you heard is it going directly to farmers or through a retailer? And what do you mean by cheaper - 25, 50, 100 bucks under?

[SASKFARMER]

Shipped to rail sidings for unload have to take min 88 tons at 400 a ton plus maybe 8 to 10 depending on freight.
410 - 465.00 (local Dealer) = 55.00 a ton X 88 = $4,840.00 need 4 cars you save $19,360.00
Use this with Generic true roundup.
2.26 a liter x 5500 acres $12,430.00

add the two this will save your farm $31,790.00 or$5.78 an acre

[SASKFARMER]

I'm not sure how much detail you can go in to Saskfarmer but who is bringing it in, and is it dry only (dumb question probably}

[SASKFARMER]

Saskfarmer how much detail can you go in to, who is bringing it in?, and is this for dry only{dumb question probably}

[SASKFARMER]

Saskfarmer how much detail can you go in to, who is bringing it in?, and is this for dry only{dumb question probably}

[SASKFARMER]

Oops hit the send two to many times.

[SASKFARMER]

Yes its dry but unless your a member cant tell whos bringing it in.

Its Not Costco

[SASKFARMER]

I understand.

[needham]

I would like more details these big companies getting rough with people or small companies trying to make a living. Can you supply us with more information on this

[needham]

You mentioned that you must be a member to get info. A MEMBERSHIP IN WHAT and do have info on being a member or how to become a member

[mbgrainfarmer]

Saudi 46-0-0 / 88 tonne/car $424/tonne spotted in Vermilion AB. Phone Farmers of North America, Saskatoon for membership and details, same guys that sell the Clearout 41 glysophate

[SASKFARMER]

Yes you are right it is FNA who seem to be the only ones who are trying to help farmers in Canada.
Doesnt it make cents since their is cheap 46-0-0 out in the world so why cant we have it in canada. Oh yea we let the retailers and cargil create a Monopoly and we have to bend over and leave them in charge just like seed and chemical well its time for a change.
They tell us farmers we have to compete on the world stage but yet have to support local and multinational companys with inflated prices. I have not yet seen any of the cargil family cutting back to survive like most farmers in Canada.
I am not just picking on Cargil there all in bed together to mine the canadian farmers.

[SASKFARMER]

Price in eastern Saskatchewan is $409.00 rail siding.
price local retailer is $469.00
60.00 a ton x 88 $5280.00

[Pulseman]

Can buy 46-0-0, bulk VCR (Vancouver) for US$170 - 190 per MT. Saudi or Ukraine product. 5000 MT minimum purchase, buyer pays per L/C, N guranteed and tested by SGS. Cost on top is vessel unloading, railcar loading shipping to unload point. Problem is tonnage, coordination and one has to have an acount with CN or CPRail.

So the guys with C$400 are still making good money.