Nitrogen prices

[poorboy]

Saskfarmer,

There will have to be costs added for unloading the ship and reloading onto the railcars. A cost for insurance in transit and bonds that have to be posted will most likely need to be included. This could easily be $50/tonne.

Looks like most of the savings are just in dealer markup.

In Alberta you could buy lots of 415-425 Urea in October and it was trucked in from Belle Plain, Sask. Bigger farms probably got a lot cheaper yet.

Hopefully FNA can get a few good unload and blending facilities set up and offer good pricing for year round fertilizer. There should be some great deals in the off season that never seem to get passed on to me.

Watch the quality of the product you are getting. Apparantly there are different "grades" of urea. Some are very coarse and some are almost dust. Make sure to ask what you are getting.

[mb_rancher]

ANd this is cash price on this 46.0.0 right?

[SASKFARMER]

The freight price of $4208.00 per rail car has insurance built in.

the cost of ship unloading is the question.

there still is a huge profit somewhere.

and for once buying in the fall is a game the companys use to create cash flow for them. farmers think they are big buy paying in fall to save income tax. so the companys have created this false economy that they cant get the product out in spring etc.

look at natural gas price in canada it is the lowest it has been in january in the last 5 years so why is nitrogen so high.

[cropduster]

It is going to be interesting to see how the fert companies try to get `off` these burdensome supplies of high priced product.They have ,I believe,locked in these prices with product and are now caught on the wrong side.Farmers are learning that there are options out there and they aren`t with the traditional suppliers.Hats off to the innovators!!!!

[SASKFARMER]

Just back from coffie with local fert dealer who just got back from a holiday to mexico put on and paid for by brett young seeds.
He must have gave me every excuse in the book as to why my price on nitrogen was cheaper than what he had.
Farmers the more educated you get on the system the less the system can take advantage of you.
Its a polite way of stealing just enough from you that you dont complain.

[cheapskidoo]

Saskfarmer, I have to agree with you on the FNA being a good thing and helping the farmer out. But at the same time many farmers do not have storage for dry fert and also do not have the cash flow. Being a farmer and also working at a local input supplier I see what is going on and I will be the first to agree with you that these fert and chem companies are a bunch of crooks. However, I do not make any excuses to my customers for the prices, and I would be happy to tell them to go to FNA to buy there fertilizer and clearout if possible. All that I am saying is that often retailers get blamed for the prices of inputs and really we are not the ones making the big profits. We are however making some money, which is more that I can say for my farm. So when I see FNA doing this ground work I am a very happy camper. Also I have 46-0-0 for sale at $435 for spring pickup.

[SASKFARMER]

one comment that I hope all retailers get back to the chemical and fert companys if the farmer is gone, then we are next so lets all get this right or it will be crushed and we are getting close to that point this spring.
WE are not the USA or EEU we are canada a land of talk and wages to support staff but little in payments to actuall farmers. US and EEU method is farmer first the infastructure will develop after that.