Would a Mass Set a side WORK

[SASKFARMER3]

What I am talking about is say 10000 acre farmer would have to cut down to 7000 and spray or cult the 3000 for which if he sprayed he would get 100 an acre if he cult he would get 90.
This on our farm would cut
1000 canola at 35 = 35000
1000 HRS at 35 = 35000
500 peas at 35 = 17500
500 barley at 75 = 37500
Total grain out of system = 125000 bushels out of system
Rail ways loose $162000 in freight
Elevators loose $80000 in fake charges
Less Grain Comision guys needed
Truckers would loose $18500
Chem would loose sales of $63500
Seed Sales would be down $48,000
Fertilizer would be down $79500

Total less expenses = $451,500.00

Cost to tax payer and Drop CASIP etc.

= $300,000.00
Income lost is
$175000 canola at 5.00
$71,000 HRS at 2.2 remainder fall 07
$47,250 Peas at 2.70
$52,500 Barley at 1.40

Total = $345,750.00
Expenses - freight since its in price
= $289,500.00
Profit = $56,250.00
Plus final CWB in fall 2007 $56,000.00
TOTAL = $112,250.00
What this example shows if we did cut back We could drop to only asking $50.00 an acre instead of the 100
But look at who we would hurt by not seeding a crop all across Canada.
Since we sell on the world market this for a few years will help and then with one failure we would be way ahead.
Yes their would be some problems but just look at the benefits.
The hundred an acre would be a good deterrent to not seed.
These acres taken out of production would have to be the farmers worst acres. Marginal land.

JUST A THOUGHT

[Intrepid1]

The market for the crops is a global one. We can`t eat everything here domestically. Unless every country on the planet did a set aside, all we would be doing is to give the other players a better market for their products. Can Canadaian producers and the taxpayer afford that??

[grrrr]

"I am assuming that Ken Goudy is working on this as we speak," he said sarcastically.

[grrrr]

No, but really. Ken Goudy sucked $250 out of a lot of people around here about 8 or 10 years ago to join his "Focus on Sabatical" group. Some followed him like a god. Others saw right through his scam. I wonder where he is now?

[wd9]

Or have a drought in the rest of the world, or feed the 2 billion malnourished in the world, or get some headway on trade tariffs, or....

[SASKFARMER3]

Its not a ken goudy system I am talking about.
The Americans take marginal land out of production why cant we.
This will drive up FEED Costs and by doing that we will have a floor price greater than we have today.
And this time when the Alberta feed lots are bringing in Subsidised US Corn Nail then with a duty.
Also to all the Cowboys who think Cattle is great have a BSE in Place for 12 years like we have had with the US Ag Policy and see how long you guys last.

[cowman]

Saskfarmer: You seem to have missed something? DRIVE up feed costs? I wonder how that is going to work?
Last year a slug of calves went south to be fed. In fact it was American buyers setting the price on calves last fall. And in case you didn't know it...I don't think anybody made any money feeding cattle up here this year despite record cheap grain?
The world has changed...it is one hell of a lot cheaper feeding cattle and hogs in the USA than it is here...just a fact? If you can't compete with subsidized corn put a duty on it, right? Okay then the cattle and pigs will be fed in the States...no problem!
What is needed is a harmonization of agricultural subsidy programs between Canada and the USA, not trying to drive the feeding industry south and destroying our livestock sector?
Twelve years of BSE? If that happened there wouldn't be a cow in Canada....so why are you still beating your head against a wall? Why would you take a bath for twelve years? How can anyone afford that? You must have very deep pockets!

[SASKFARMER3]

Yes Cowman your right and the pockets were really deep but now were down to the threads and we changed the farm completely since this all started.
All I know is the US games and Canadian games are killing us all. and where it will end will be any ones guess.
just hope I can get through another year other wise Ill be living in Alberta and my wife can nurse and Ill go working.

[cowman]

Saskfarmer: I know it isn't very rosy. With grain prices at the price they are it sure doesn't look good? And with our new federal government starting to look like our old federal government...well what can you say?
Reading the last issue of the Western Producer and ag minister Wartmans comments it doesn't look very promising.
Top that off with Barry Wilsons column: A farmer called him up and blasted him for crying farmer poverty and the need for a farm aid program! Farmer stated he was doing very well, thank you very much, and recieved over $100,000 in goverment payments and that Wilson should lay off calling for a crisis payout!...now I don't know...maybe Wilson should have had the call traced? Might have found out the caller was Mark Wartman!!!

[SASKFARMER3]

I read that article to and wondered out loud what that guy was talking about. I have lots of friends that farm throughout Saskatchewan and when we get together not one this year is saying how rosy it is like this guy. Also his comments on getting 100,000 out of CASIP i really question that one. first to get that kind of money for 04 they would have corresponded back and forth with the guy to drive him nuts. Second its over 100,000 so they would AUDIT him, and with understanding the program he would have not paid any suppliers in fall of 03 etc. Or he is just plain lying.
ANY one who deals with the CASIP program knows that they are like buying a lottery ticket you pay for your ticket and then wait and see if you won. This guy won so I guess it really is like a lottery every one knows of some one out their that actually won 6-49.
I am sorry the guy was probably Kevin Hursh!