FNA- Just another chemical company!

[bgmb]

FNA is charging 4.25 per liter for it's clearout 41 plus.
Questions:
1) Why would i buy clearout from FNA when i can buy renegade from the local dealer for 4.30/liter equivalent? When i buy from the local dealer i can pick it up and pay for it when i want and i save myself a membership in FNA
2) Why is FNA making a dollar per liter off it's members.
Anyone can apply for an own use import permit and buy clearout for 10.00-12.00/gallon USD depending on quantity.

by my calculations
11.00/gallon
= 2.91 USD per liter
= 3.42 CDN per liter

[SASKFARMER3]

Talked to the ND relative today to check out your facts. He laughed your looking at the basic clear-out 41 with no surfactant.
Compare apples to apples.
FNA got this ball rolling why not stick with someone who helps farmers?

[cropduster]

FNA got the ball rolling ,good for them!But they are THE only retailers for Clearout!Albaugh(sp)won`t sell to independents in the US.Kinda funny don`tcha think?Where will they be when we can get Knockout,Strikeout etc for less bucks.The Mann`s have become what they were fighting!Giving the cheque to Agricity before the product even enters the country is legally STUPID!!

[bgmb]

Actually SF3 i'm not looking at clearout without surfactant. I am looking at clearout 41 plus which includes surfactant

If you want it without surfactant it's 9 dollars a gallon USD.

FNA is sticking it to it's members!

[lakenheath]

It is a joke what FNA is doing. I could buy Clear-Out last year from the States for a lot less than FNA is charging. Then add the membership for a 2000 acre farm (that is 43 cents an acre extra for the product on top the raping price they are charging for it).

What a bloody joke. For the farmer my @ss.

[silverback]

So how many out there were importing product under the oui before FNA got so many people going on it?

If they are charging so much for it, how much do you think the major companies are making off their products?

Is there the same amount of anger towards them?

[makar]

Back in the late 70s i ran a awp elevator, my boss told me a truckload of treflan was insured by dow for $600.00. I worked 20 years later for cargill. I snopped in the computer and the no money price is cost to the station. No one makes money but they all take a cut. My late father told me a story out of his ukrainian village the storekeeper had a barrel of flour by the door open. People would walk in. stick their fingers in the barrel and lick them clean. In time the store keeper sold no flour and his barrel was empty. Sounds like my farm now. The chemical companies make no money off of our flour.

[crusher]

FNA delivers it straight to farm. I spend twenty minutes filling out the paperwork. I can't buy premium glyphosate for $4.25 anywhere else. They get my money.

[darren442]

How is clearout 41 plus premium Glyphosate ? It is only 356 G/L active as isopropylamine salt ? I believe this is the lower end of glyphosates. Were as touchdown is a higher active and touchdown is diammonium salt and is the only product that has this active at 480 g/L and Transorb which is 540 G/L of potassium salt and is the only one with this active. And what quarantee do you have with the other glyphosates ? If Transorb don't work at least you can get you chemical back fairly quickly.

[SASKFARMER3]

Clear out 41 is just as superior as transorb trust me on that one.
It has same amount of surfactant but monsanto's generic that they were bragging about last spring is not even close to clear-out 41 this is where Monsanto pulled the wool over farmers eyes by bringing out a cheap generic and said it was the same as (clear out 41) what farmers were buying well it isn't.

[northfarmer]

442 is right, if you compare the actives and concentration of active ingredients there is a difference among these products...others were comparing themselves to the new potassium salts but they are different..not sure on theperfomrance side but one would assume they have faster uptake into the plant and we did see a difference on drydown on cerels this past fall that varied on product...clearout was slower to act than renegade...renagade is the same formulation and concentration as wmax, not even sure if there is a difference in the surfactant package, but now the color is different, the big difference is in the service package and warranty plus no risk share on canola...

i have personally booked the renegade shuttles and will pay in the 4.50 to 4.70 range..assuming the prices are wehre they were last year..may go with the wmax deal on my tuas acres given the low prices and risk share deal that covers the whole cost of tua and chem....

if the border was closer I too would look at bringing it over, but the fright cost/time is prohibitive even if i send my own van, just not enough difference in price to justify it...

I am more interested in the grassy and broadleafs generics where we spend a lot more money

[Freesaw]

I was a former touchdown user but in the last two years I have been using clearout and a bit of touchdown and will contiue to do so as I see no differance in performance between the two products. It is also a superior product when compared to renegade. do a field test with the three products and see for yourself.

[kamichel]

I will also testify from my experience that clearout 41 is a superior product also. What I would like to know is has anyone had much experience in the purchase of all the other chemicals that one can order from FNA? From what I understand the farmer pays up front then gets a rebait later. Has that worked out for anyone? Can the farmer purchase the chemical cheaper that way? or is there no one doing that.

[uef]

From what I know they did not have a chemical program last year because the distributors would not supply them. In 2005 they had one. The prices were "normal" chemical prices but then you got the rebate that you could use to pay for clearOut. That was (and the fact that they came out with it too late) why I did not use it. I hate those deals were you have to buy something to get something else cheaper!
Anyway when you figured in the rebate those prices were really good! And they would have delivered them free.

[SASKFARMER3]

Clear-out 41 compared to renegade is a superior product.
10000liters 5000 renegade 5000 clear-out 41.
winner clear-out 41 it has to do with surfactant.
Monsanto tried the old flash and pan routine last year but every one found the same thing in our area. it will be hard for them to do the same program in 07 in our area again.