Agco's The King of The Hill Again

[rockpile]

Price???

[Oliver88]

Price???

LOL

Phone Agco and report back to us.

[furrowtickler]

The 9795 and 9895 were well built , the 9540's we had were not to say the least .
If all the upgrades were done I am sure they are fine , but like iceman pointed out that would be after 40 pages of updates .
Like most new models of anything there always seems to be weak spots not thoroughly thought out .

[rockpile]

Lol! The price won't be released until November but they did say it will be expensive. Claims to have the biggest everything and that must include cost of purchase.

[binthere]

New gen. Class 10

[Oliver88]

The 9795 and 9895 were well built , the 9540's we had were not to say the least .
If all the upgrades were done I am sure they are fine , but like iceman pointed out that would be after 40 pages of updates .
Like most new models of anything there always seems to be weak spots not thoroughly thought out .

Good to know, sounds like some bad customer management by a salesman too if they didn't ensure the updates were done for a customer. I prefer to buy older machinery at auctions where there is a full farm dispersal lineup so likely not an issue for us.

[Ache4Acres]

i dunno.....looks awesome but this make me nervous:

“The Dual Helix threshing system uses low pressure rotors which are designed to allow maximum space around each rotor for the straw to expand and release grain,” says Adam Sherriff, Market Development Manager, Massey Ferguson Harvesting. “The length of travel and the fact that the straw falls by gravity directly into the chopper really keeps the power requirement to a minimum by not breaking up the straw”

Sounds like some engiNERDS maybe were overthinking this one....they got 675hp....why not use it!!

I dont want to have to pull out the ole gleaner when it comes time to smash some heads in tough threshing wheat.

[furrowtickler]

Oliver , no , even Agco themselves did not know at the time . The sales guys did what they could after the fact but had no clue before hand on the issues that would arise from all 6 they sold .
It was not until we and others hit the field . Ended up being R and D test dumbies for Agco that fall . Actually everyone that had them that fall .
I think even Agco was taken by surprise the problems that occurred.
Anyway , once all the issues were addressed I am sure they work fine .
I loved the engine , the smooth power , their V cool rad system is awesome . Never had to blow the rad or air filter on 250 hrs . Crop feeding was 100 x better that the Gleaners. Reversible rotors were nice Cabs were nice . A lot of very good features .
All the updates were not even wrote up until after that first year they hit the field .... meaning after those of us that had them ran them for the first fall .
Anyway , Agco has addressed those issues from what I hear . There are guys with 9540 and 9560's with all updates who are very happy with them now . I am sure Case ,Deer and others have their issues with first year models as well at times .
Don't want to derail this post and bash
on Agco at all . Not the point .
This new line of combines may well be field ready and perform excellent, I hope for Agco they do 👍.
End of the day regardless if you bleed green or red , case and Deer combines are designed for corn and soybean and retro fitted for our crops - small grains here in western Canada .
Those European style combines are actually designed from the ground up for small grains, and tough straw conditions.
Actually only the original TR New Hollands were designed in western Canada for our crops here as far as rotories go .
I know when you put a Case, Deer, and New Holland in a field of canola together at the same time what happens .... we did it after the Massey episode .
The New Holland was heads and shoulders above everything . That included our one Massey and a Gleaner at the time .
It all come down to the sieve capacity and cleaning area performance . That's where Lexion has them all beat , hands down .
This new Massey may well be the real deal , time will tell . We all will know in about two years .

[Guest]

the first two years of the CIH 8010 were a nightmare . updates for years . almost killed the flagship before it got going .

[farmaholic]

I can imagine what the price of this mammoth thing will be. By buying the biggest one, in the end I think all we'll be doing is continuing to buy into the idea that bigger and newer is always better. .....and then have the nerve to complain about the price of equipment.

[15444]

Word was locally, a few weeks ago, that neighbor is buying a 3rd combine to go with his 2 Lexions. All I heard was the price of the new unit - $800k.

[wmoebis]

If they were smart , but that's debatable, they would head to the Area west of the Battleford's through Lloyd and keep heading west after that . There are some big crops in that area . Would be a great test. It will be tough slugging in heavy straw , also big canola crops. That is where this thing should be put to the test.

Just drove that area yesterday, you are right and alot still out. Should be able to run for at least a month yet if weather holds.