How much Hp to pull a protill ?

[fjlip]

fad machines, useless in the mud. cant replace a good deep tiller, and heavy harrow

Disks of any kind PACK wet soils, actually kills your soil, makes a compaction layer under the depth you go.
I remember tandem disks and discers...even a heavy harrow PACKS wet soil, had a wreck after a downpour one spring. WET- dry opposite problems, both makes these machines questionable.

[Guest]

I know for a fact thats lots of guys lost yield big time in canola by packing the ground with these machines and also by the false sense of security that land was ready to seed The proof is everywhere you look here in the swamp this year. And it doesnt matter what make they were pulling . Burning also cost yield big time because the land dried out so bad once the rains stopped. Best results for this year was a cultivator with knives followed by a medium harrow

[MBgrower]

following heavy rain storms you can clearly see what fields are protilled / vt'd. those fields are full of standing water, so it seems these machines do create a hard pan, compaction layer

[Lowrider27]

How much HP

Danny, I can't say anything about compaction with these machines, that remains to be seen on my farm. Last year I hired a nrighbor to vertical till 480 acres for us to level out sprayer ruts more than anything. Sure as hell dried everything out! As to your horsepower question , several years ago I got a Demo Salford 4100 vertical tillage machine. It was very wet that fall , and I could only pull this 30 foot machine to 8 mph with my 330 TJ New Holland. Just bagged it. 8 mph was not fast enough for the discs to clear And mud stuck so bad that they would roll up 3 inches wide and wouldn't penetrate. My neighbour had a 550 hp Cat tracked tractor and pulled his 50 foot Salford easily to 11 mph. Mud flew off the discs great and penetrated to 4 inches deep!

[Lowrider27]

How much HP

Danny, I can't say anything about compaction with these machines, that remains to be seen on my farm. Last year I hired a nrighbor to vertical till 480 acres for us to level out sprayer ruts more than anything. Sure as hell dried everything out! As to your horsepower question , several years ago I got a Demo Salford 4100 vertical tillage machine. It was very wet that fall , and I could only pull this 30 foot machine to 8 mph with my 330 TJ New Holland. Just bagged it. 8 mph was not fast enough for the discs to clear And mud stuck so bad that they would roll up 3 inches wide and wouldn't penetrate. My neighbour had a 550 hp Cat tracked tractor and pulled his 50 foot Salford easily to 11 mph. Mud flew off the discs great and penetrated to 4 inches deep!

[Hopalong]

Have a couple of fields that are a quarter to half bull rush sloughs that have dried enough to get through with sprayer or disk.
Considering spraying to help take out green followed by burning and disking.
Depends how have much dry weather we get.
Sloughs were cropped for consecutive years in the past.
Worth the gamble?

[farmaholic]

Hoppy....reclaiming sloughs can be a labour of love. You can go through a lot of work only to have them fill up again with run-off. If the trend is dry it might be worth the effort. Assess the chance of them filling by how big an area runs off into them

Willows can seemingly show up from no where in haysloughs that had been cut for decades.

Tough call. Good luck.