Guns Question

[flea beetle]

Browning BLR , you’ll love it, light and can get heavy loads

In .308? What would you put on top?

[flea beetle]

Actually, that is a beautiful gun on its own. Really like the stainless takedown model. Wouldn’t want to wreck it with anything on top. Interesting how they got pointed rifle cartridges to work in a lever action!

[blackpowder]

Felt recoil is also a function of the size and weight of your rifle. As well as the fit of the stock. U bought lite rifles....
Once I put a proper length of pull and cheek rise stock on my 458, it was night and day. A recoil tube in butt helped too. Stocks meant for scopes can beat you up if using sights or red dots.
Use high quality electronic muffs. Don't develop a flinch.
Brakes make it loud.
06 and 308 very similar. 3 + - more grains to achieve 2400 fps with a 165 pill.
308 was the standard match round for decades. It fits a short action and is a more efficient case. Reload manuals will always mislead you about weight range of applicable bullets. But your twist rate actually dictates what will work.
Terminal ballistics another matter.
The most efficient cow killer I've seen is a 22 Hornet.
You need to match the bullets design characteristics with the correct velocities. It needs to penetrate only as far as necessary while giving the desired expansion.
Drilling high velocity laser beam holes does not produce the required hydraulic shock.
U indicated short range work.
If you like levers, a 45-70 can be loaded up or down in a wide range to suit your needs. Factory Leverrevolution ammo can be a little warm.
Thinking 30-30 might be a fine fit if all shots up close and in the brain box.
Weighty slugs for diameter designed for lower velocity work with soft flat points.
Have fun!
Get a reload press.

[Guest]

How has the bison venture panned out flea?

[blackpowder]

Actually, that is a beautiful gun on its own. Really like the stainless takedown model. Wouldn’t want to wreck it with anything on top. Interesting how they got pointed rifle cartridges to work in a lever action!

Soft polymer tipped SPs designed for purpose only, in a tube mag. Or traditional FPs

[AlbertaFarmer5]

FWIW, when the vet or our butcher puts down a cow, they just use a .22
Is a bison skull any thicker than a cow?

[blackpowder]

Agree the 22LR is most popular, but I have seen it fail miserably on occasion. Placement and size.

[flea beetle]

How has the bison venture panned out flea?

The local community so far has been tremendous in supporting this new ride. Butchered pretty well everything that had to be done this year about a week ago, and almost have it all sold already. Have been asked numerous times within the last year to do pre-seasoned burgers, and I think we will be doing a lot more of those in the years to come.

Being along a primary highway helps with sales, but it also has almost caused a few accidents from people slamming on the brakes to have a peek at them.

It will be interesting to see if the demand will be there as our numbers grow. Although we haven’t really done any marketing yet either. All of our sales have been to local people wanting to try something new.

[flea beetle]

FWIW, when the vet or our butcher puts down a cow, they just use a .22
Is a bison skull any thicker than a cow?

Yes the skull is a fair bit thicker. The hide is also about double as thick as a cow. A lot harder to skin.

[flea beetle]

Felt recoil is also a function of the size and weight of your rifle. As well as the fit of the stock. U bought lite rifles....
Once I put a proper length of pull and cheek rise stock on my 458, it was night and day. A recoil tube in butt helped too. Stocks meant for scopes can beat you up if using sights or red dots.
Use high quality electronic muffs. Don't develop a flinch.
Brakes make it loud.
06 and 308 very similar. 3 + - more grains to achieve 2400 fps with a 165 pill.
308 was the standard match round for decades. It fits a short action and is a more efficient case. Reload manuals will always mislead you about weight range of applicable bullets. But your twist rate actually dictates what will work.
Terminal ballistics another matter.
The most efficient cow killer I've seen is a 22 Hornet.
You need to match the bullets design characteristics with the correct velocities. It needs to penetrate only as far as necessary while giving the desired expansion.
Drilling high velocity laser beam holes does not produce the required hydraulic shock.
U indicated short range work.
If you like levers, a 45-70 can be loaded up or down in a wide range to suit your needs. Factory Leverrevolution ammo can be a little warm.
Thinking 30-30 might be a fine fit if all shots up close and in the brain box.
Weighty slugs for diameter designed for lower velocity work with soft flat points.
Have fun!
Get a reload press.

A lot of good info there. Thanks for that!