I am considering purchasing a grain bagger and extractor. Are they as great as the sales people say they are? If anyone owns the above mentioned I would like to know your opinion.
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I have been looking also, and am strongly considering purchasing also.
The pros as I see it are:
1. Unlimited storage for not much more $
2. Can bag it anywhere, such as rented land, in the field if short of truckers, etc.
3. No bugs, no bugs, no bugs.
4. Can store tough grain 19% and below safely. A couple of harvests ago that would have been nice, because instead of waiting or spending money on airation, I could have been harvesting.
5. Because tough grain will keep until spring, you can deliver it in the spring when everyone else is hauling their dry grain and the elevators don't care and won't deduct anything for tough.
6. Filling the bag is quick and unloading the bag is fast.
However, there are a few negatives that I have though of also:
1. You have to figure out how you are going to fill the bag. If using a grain cart, you can only haul so far, or you can't get back to the combines in time. If filling by truck, the bags hold about 50 bushels per foot, so a 600-1000 bushel truckload will move ahead 12-20 feet each truck load. That is a lot. The trucker will be very busy during the bag filling process. This is the big reason that I have not purchased one yet.
2. Bags are heavy and take time to put on the bagger to get started. Your harvest may have to stop for a longer time period than it would normally take to move the grain auger to the next steel bin.
3. Snow will have to be pushed off the sides of the bags to allow unloading in the winter. You can't allow the snow banks to melt and ice into the bags or unloading will not occur until spring.
4. The unloader will move ahead as you unload the bag, and it will take 2 people or 3 people to operate it. One in the truck and 1-2 people to run the unloader. A 1600 bushel super b will move ahead 32 feet or more when loading out the bag. It will keep the trucker busy moving, so the grain is in the correct spot and the truck not overloaded.
I find that the filling of the bag is the biggest obstacle for me. I haul off the combines with semi trucks and dumping 1000-1200 bushels involves so much movement of the bagger that it is a problem, to which the solution does not seem to exist. Ideally, I think that the grain bags should be stored close to the bin sites, so there is power availabe to the unloader tractors for the cold winter days.
Hopefully, those who have used the baggers and extractors will comment on there experiences.
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have used bags for a few years now....
we fill from tandem trailers and super b's....no problem, driving over a pit would be nice but cannot afford it or justify is as of yet....not as fast our 13' using big bins, but reasonable
..we know all about lots of snow, rain elk, deer, snowmobiles and qauds, all hazards for grain bags but manageable...fences and guns help
no, you cannot reuse the bags with the roll up machine, it slices them up the middle so the machine can take the grain out.....the other extractor works well as i have seen one in action and partners in the purchase
cheap surge storage capacity....can not afford to own steel and concrete for that when that happens...though still not afraid to pile it on the ground if movement is imminent.....
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If filling with tandem grain trucks would you have to move them while unloading or would the conveyor swing enough to dump one load without moving? I was told that they are as fast as a 13 inch auger, would it keep up to two JD cts combines in oats? How fast is the extractor for loading out of bags.
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we do not have tandem trucks, but tandem trailers and super b's.....but you should be able to dump tandem as we move truck for each hole on trailer....one man job unless you have truckers that need a swamper....lol.....
the extractor works with one guy in tractor, preferably bidirectionals, and depending how you like to fill your truck a guy on the truck....
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Northfarmer,
Which model of bagger are you using, and what things do you like and dislike about it? I am assuming that it does not have a hopper on top that you fill with a grain cart, but a coveyor style loading system that Flamans sell. What diameter bag are you using? I am told you can get baggers in 9,10 and 12 foot diameters. The 12 footers may only be for barley, I am not sure of that.
Would you purchase a bagger again. I can go to email if you would prefer for you comments.
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we use 10' bagger, lime green machine?, not sure of manufacturer but built in USA, where this all started......extractors is argentine and came after seeing them at Red Deer ag show... ....if I did this again ...bigger would be better, we are thinking of modifying to use 12' bags....
have modified the existing conveyor to make it more automated and easier to transport.....we thought using a televeyor from Tridekon in MB as the filling system to the bagger...the hopper on top makes a lot of sense if the bags are to be in the field as you would eliminate the trucks at combining, but we like to centralize the bagging location for wildlife and other management issues....
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for more info google grain bagger.....or go to grainbagsystems.com......these things have been around our neck of the woods for a while, now huge in Argentina and Australia....
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