US Import Tarriffs?

[rain]

Can any one tell me what the subsidies the US are whinning about. I did not know we are subsidizing hog production in Canada?

[wd40]

TMR machines when examined to the core and used right are worth it. You can expect from 25 to 30% better eficiency of your feed when used right. That means you need to load them with a balanced ration.
The best mix is achieved in a four auger mixer when the top augers are about 4 inches away from the bottom ones. Any further and there are ded spots in between. The only thing the verticale mixers can do is break up long material into the mix. However they do a lousy job of mixing in supplement or grain.
A good 4 auger mixer will have you a mix in about 4 minuets with low power requirments.
Rotaries/horizontals can't even be taught how to mix a ration.

[wd40]

Lots to consider DNaker. We use a Jlor, corksrew and I find it good for a number of reasons. Our farm is mainly purebred cow/calf with only our own yearlings and bulls. We mix hay with all of our rations, and some are almost straight hay. I feel that the cows are getting the pellets as they don't usually spend the whole time eating at one spot. We buy all of our feed including around 700 ton of silage per year. This Jlor does an excellent job of cutting every bale that I have thrown in it.
Labour is probably the real key for me. My days would almost never end if I were to feed without this thing---or I would need to hire help.
I can see a feedlot having challenges with a vertical, but lots of positives for cowcalf operations.

[wd40]

TMR - stands for "Total Mixed Ration". If that's what you require, then my above comments stand. That means you can take 10 bunk samples of the mix have them tested from first off to last off and they will be relatively the same. If you want a machine to rip up long rougages and bled it with silage and you are feeding cows then a verticle will perform relativly well.
However as a "TMR" they won't cut it so don't let any salesman or producer tell you other wise.

[ivbinconned]

wd40...your back! thought they must have locked you in a combine.

[wd40]

looks like combining might have to waite till next year, so I think I'll take a trip to where the sun (usually) shines.

[dfarms11]

So WD40 which machines to you recommend and which do you not, please name some examples, thank you.

[rusty1]

Ok the Harsh mixers, Renn and the Cattlelac 4-auger mixers are built in the same profile as Harsh.
The other auger (horizontal mixers) have a much larger gap between the top and bottom augers. They are chain reduction and require more HP instead of the trouble free planetary gear boxes.

[WoolyBear]

I guess most of the subsidies that they were complaining about could not be countervailed because they were not "subsidies" that were directed to hog production alone.

There were various one in each province, and were really no different than those offered by the various State and Federal governments in the US. They focused on the purple gas tax exemptions on farm fuels, portion payments of crop insurances and income stabilization things like NISA and AIDA. The tax exemption on farm building materials, and the reduced interest rate loans (Young Farmers Rebate in MB). There were things like PFRA shelterbelts, incentives for conservation, there was a whole list. If I find it again I'll post the list. It was either on Canadian Pork Council or the NPPC (USA) site.

Nothing like calling the kettle black or whatever by the US with all of their export subsidies that EVERYONE knows about. Nothing like grabbing at straws I hear.

[ivbinconned]

Don't discount that it may be the generous support directed at all segments of Quebec ag industry that may be the instigation behind U.S. actions.

The following is from a Quebec web site:

Nearly 80 pig breeders of Iowa denounce the new tax with the importation on Canadian piglets.



The tax of 14% imposed by the American ministry of the Trade on the purchases of alive piglets coming from Canada could involve the closing of several American farms, clamp Pork Trade Action Coalition.

Estimating that the American offer of piglets is too weak to provide the request, these stockbreeders must supply themselves at high price in Canada.

“Some of the most important stockbreeder-transformers of pigs of the United States endorse this tax and benefit from the closing of the border to the piglet imports. You undeceive, it acts yourselves in fact of a tax on the American farmers”, clamp the Coalition in a diffused publicity last week in Iowa.

The stockbreeders of Iowa imported 2,7 million alive pigs of Canada in 2003, which is equivalent to a little more half of all piglets imported of Canada towards the United States this year.