Matt Gehl in Australia speaking for you?

[Hopperbin]

Percy actually visitted African countries that were starving and convinced them to stay starving cause we are selling them food that we would not eat ourselves. Its shit like this that is not neccessary.

[charliep]

malleefarmer

When Australia uses the term genetically modified, what does it mean? Transgenics? Seen several presentations on plant breeding in Australia and your country is making real progress on several fronts including agronomic factors that influence yield/quality. Plant breeding by inserting genes from the same species or perhaps others is only one of the tools in the tool box.

See the references to herbicide resistance and the need to rotate crops/herbicide classes. Saw a good presentation on stripe rust at WBGA and this served as a not so gentle reminder that plant diseases adapt as do weeds. Plant breeding and proper use of technology/agronomics are a necessary part of agriculture to stay ahead of the game.

[grassfarmer]

Hopper, you should visit with Peter Eggers
sometime, I haven't met anyone in Alberta with a
better understanding of soils. Just outstanding
results and improvement he has achieved on the
land he has up there in the Peace. Real
improvement - coming from holistic and organic
knowledge not from a chemical bottle.

[Hopperbin]

Oh dear so Peter Eggers an organic farmer is scared of being sued by monsanto for using monsanto's seeds, give us all a break.

[Hopperbin]

got that from googling his name and organic ag. So if he can spew this sort or crap I am not going to listen any further.

[malleefarmer]

frost damage is a huge issue in australia during flowering.

they apparently have some genes form artic plants which they wish to "implant' butits hit a road block apparently, someone has complaoned or hoodwinked politicians.

absolutley nothing to with chems just a better wheat type getting stopped by those who may know little.

[grassfarmer]

Are they genes from an "arctic plant" Mallee or are
they like the GM tomatoes, or was it strawberries
where the gene they transplanted was from the arctic
carp (a fish) so that shelf life under refrigerated
conditions would be extended. Frankenstein food
indeed.

[wd9]

grassfarmer, reading myth off the web
doesn't make it fact.

Also, crops that are safe for food feed
and the environment are not
contamination. Fusarium, vomitoxin,
Claviceps purpurea, unregistered
varieties, noxious weeds, duck shit and
deer shit etc are contamination.

Just because you say it is
contamination, doesn't mean it is.
Actual rules exist that define what
contamination is.

[grassfarmer]

Not talking about the kind of contamination that is
necessarily a health risk. I was referring to
contamination in terms of a plant species turning
up where it is not wanted. That would include in the
field of an organic farmer or a farmer who does not
wish to grow GM crops and may lose a non-GM
market premium as a result.

[wd9]

I know, i also have that problem. Crappy
looking organic wheat contaminating my
premium quality high protein wheat. Its a
real problem.