Canola on pea stubble?

[furrowtickler]

The combination of trflan with a pre burn, an ortho phos in the seed row and micro's with the viper consistently yielded 35% higher than seeding peas with tag team then spraying with just viper and no micro's in all plots in all 3 locations.
Other added fertility also pushed yields but the cost, risk and efficiency at seeding become a factor for us at that point.
Authority was also used in with some of the treflan/round up pre burn treatments - it definatelty added to weed control and had no negative effects on pea yield what so ever - but again that gets pricey.

[furrowtickler]

Anyway, adding treflan to the weed control in peas will carry over into more consistent weed control if you are doing canola on pea stubble as part of your rotation. And if I can get a disease reduction in the peas consistently - that's a bonus.

[freewheat]

Putting my canola on mainly faba stubble this year. If I get it combined. lol It was in my plan all along. Faba fix 2X the n as pea, and act more like alfalfa, where the n affect is long term. I am looking forward to trying it out. But we need to get rid of some snow. High is supposed to be -4 today. Still can't combine.

[bucket]

Freewheat

You have been taking advantage of cheap equipment at sales .... right?

Hope you get the spring work done.

Let's us know on your results. Your field trials are more relevant to me than the advertised ones.

[furrowtickler]

Faba beans look promising but how is the market for them ? I like the fact that spring frost does not bother them , this can be seeded early with low risk .

[freewheat]

Freewheat

You have been taking advantage of cheap equipment at sales .... right?

Hope you get the spring work done.

Let's us know on your results. Your field trials are more relevant to me than the advertised ones.

No money for machinery no matter how cheap, to be honest. I am licking wounds over here. lol If I was anywhere but here, I would be able to be combining. That is frustrating.

[freewheat]

Faba beans look promising but how is the market for them ? I like the fact that spring frost does not bother them , this can be seeded early with low risk .

The hog barns will take all I can grow them.

A few of the benefits I see so far:

They stand UP. Viagra could learn from them.

Lowest pods are at least 6 inches off the ground. In the good areas, the first pods are often a foot off the ground.

They fix n much better.=, and have an extended release, more like alfalfa or clover. Noticeable response in year two..

No rolling needed

Combine like a dang dream. Just amazing. Fast operation.

No earth tag.

They love water, unlike peas.

Cheap to grow.

Seed was 25 bucks, tag team granular about 12. Shot of basagran and poast, and that is pretty much all the cash in. No fungicides, you want them to die off.

They smell like heaven when they bloom.

They are a good honey crop for our bees we are getting this spring, and they respond better than most crops to pollination.

Yield was about 60 in the fall at least. They are falling over a bit now, so I think I am losing some. Not shelling, but falling over, dangit. Barns are paying 6.50 right now, so close to 400 gross, with minimal cash in.


Cons:

They are pretty late maturing. If I can get them in first week of May, rather than late second week, it will be better.

Not very fast growing initially, and very slow to emerge. So weeds can be an issue if you aren't on it.

Other than that, no cons in my view.

I can see them being a third of my acres, easy.

Faba, Canola, Cereal, faba. Or canola, cereal, faba, cereal.

[tweety]

One more con, if its a dry year they will yield worse then any other crop.

[bucket]

Freewheat

You look into radish or turnips to help your land?

[freewheat]

One more con, if its a dry year they will yield worse then any other crop.

Our farm has never in its history had a year since 1928, where yields were affected by dry conditions, so yeah, I speak for my area.They suck in dry or hot conditions for sure,or so I hear.

[freewheat]

Freewheat

You look into radish or turnips to help your land?

Two summers ago, I was going to try some radishes on some un seedable land, but it stayed so wet, that the recommended seeding date of mid July, came and went, so the affect of the roots would not have occurred.

The best thing for us in this area, to help our land, is for long term, good old fashioned dry weather to return. Like 88 or the early 2000's.

[golden1]

furrow. Does anyone have any idea why adding treflan to burnoff helps with root rot . Definately going to try it this year.

[furrowtickler]

Yes there are a few studies that have been done that showed when trifuralin gasses off it kicks fusarium and aphanomyces spores.
It had a notable reduction in last years trials

[Hamloc]

Can you tank mix Treflan-Authority-Glyphosate for pre seed burn on peas? What controls volunteer RR canola with this pre seed combo? Would like to move away from using heat.

[farmaholic]

furrow....I wonder if it has a negative affect on the beneficial fungi as well. Kinda like insecticides aren't selective either. But I guess if the pros outweigh the cons.

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