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    #16
    Anyone wants to know what was actually
    said at this meeting call me 306-460-
    9272. I have the presentation. It was
    not about the preferrence of the bond.
    The bonding system is gone. It is about
    designing least cost system after the
    bond. The government has made the
    decision to kill the current system.
    Gordon Bacon is also the CEO of CSCA
    (special crop trade association). I am
    pretty sure his only comments at this
    meeting where about developing least
    cost solutions in the new environment
    (meaning no bond situation). I know
    Gordon quite well and he just would
    simply not get involved in a issue that
    goes against Pulse Canada stakeholders.
    And, read the article. I doesn't say he
    supports a removal of the bonding
    system. It states that "most" of the
    participants support most of the
    changes. The bond is only part of the
    changes the are being made and discussed
    at the meeting in question.

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      #17
      Does that mean I can put my pitchfork away ;-)

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        #18
        The bond system didnt work well enough. The
        audit process comes way after the fact. Large
        companies could be way over their bond and no
        one would know. I was somewhat involved a
        while back in trying to design a plan that would
        provide better security for producers very
        cheaply. Actually at that time, the insurance
        option was so cheap and I had suggested that
        the cost be shared as in not fully born by the
        producer. I would like to be a fly on the wall
        while this issue is being discussed. There is an
        organization called the Western Canadian
        Marketers and Processors Association that was
        involved in the negotiations when the bond was
        accepted 1994 to 2012. I think producers should
        be very interested in the direction of this
        legislation. Wonder what the timeline for
        implementation is? The Pulse Board is a
        producer organization - make your voices heard.

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          #19
          To quote the article by Barry Wilson
          "witnesses invited to speak at the short
          session largely supported the proposed
          changes". My question was simply: what
          was Pulse Canada's position on these
          changes? Was this position presented to
          the Pulse Canada Board or to the grower
          groups? One can debate the merits of the
          changes as well but perhaps as important
          is the communication between Pulse
          Canada and the PC Board and the grower
          groups when PCanada is invited to speak
          on major ag issues. If there was no
          communication on this very important
          issue I would suggest that this approach
          is a concern for many growers.

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            #20
            To my understanding, and I am a director of
            Canadian Special Crops Assn, Gordon was
            speaking on behalf of CSCA and not Pulse
            Canada. You should call me. Bet you won't
            though.

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              #21
              Saw this come across my email. Not sure of all
              the candidates. Hundaby lives close by and I
              know him well enough to talk. He has spent a lot
              of time on the board of Gardner dam terminal but I
              don't know if hewas a good board member or not?

              I know Simpsons sister I served on a board with
              her and the family has been involved with pulse
              for a generation. This is also a perceived
              handicap, how much processor influence do we
              want on a farmer board? Also he is younger. I
              think he would bring a different perspective to the
              board than some of the old war horses. Hope he
              can assert himself and form his own opinions if
              elected.
              Dutton I know a bit am told she's a bit of a shit
              disturber. Sometimes that's a good thing
              sometimes not.
              Wiens I'm told has been a very good director from
              Sask Canola. Asks lots of questions. Don't know
              about other guy.

              This running as a slate and being endorsed
              makes me wonder about director independence?
              Will they make tough decisions if the decision has
              already been predetermined? Hope so!

              I'm working on a Sask wheat commission and
              cotton I'll send your nomination forms in, when
              the call for directors happens. If your idea has
              merit,you get the credit.

              2012-11-19 Corrected
              Pulse candidates Robert Hundeby and Trevor
              Simpson are endorsed by current directors
              FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – Monday,
              November 19, 2012 to Saskatchewan Farm
              Media
              Issued by: Saskatchewan Pulse Growers
              Directors Buhr, Moen and Vandenberg

              It’s Saskatchewan Pulse Growers (SPG) election
              time again, and candidates Robert Hundeby and
              Trevor Simpson are being endorsed by current
              directors Shawn Buhr, Jim Moen and Dr. Bert
              Vandenberg. A key duty of elected SPG directors
              is to identify and encourage people to let their
              name stand for election as director. The directors
              assisted them in the nomination process and ask
              pulse growers to vote for these young farm
              businessmen in the election which is underway.
              Two spots are open on the SPG board.
              Robert Hundeby (37) is married with three
              children and has operated a 3900 acre farm
              business at Elbow, Saskatchewan since 1996.
              Rob is a select seed grower and a third of his land
              has been in pulses, including lentils, peas and
              chickpeas. Among other endeavors, he is
              currently vice president of the Gardiner Dam
              Terminal.
              Trevor Simpson (31), also married with one child,
              is a select seed grower and manages the
              Simpson family 8500 acre pedigreed seed farm at
              Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. Over the last 7 years,
              Trevor has gained extensive experience in the
              production, processing and value adding of
              pulses, including the construction and
              management of a red lentil splitting plant.
              “It is encouraging to see this new generation of
              young pulse growers run for our board”, says
              Shawn Buhr, SPG Director. “We need their input
              and new ideas to move our pulse industry
              forward. It is so beneficial to our industry to have
              an election which provides choices and stimulates
              discussion.”
              Buhr, along with Moen and Vandenberg, asks
              pulse growers to support Robert Hundeby and
              Trevor Simpson during the election which is now
              underway. Ballots have been mailed out and
              should be received by all Saskatchewan pulse
              growers the week of November 19th. Completed
              ballots need to be received no later than 4pm on
              December 6th.
              For more information please contact:

              Shawn Buhr, Lucky Lake cell (306) 858 7256
              office (306) 858-2408 srbuhr@sasktel.net
              Jim Moen, Cabri cell (306) 587-7452 office (306)
              587-2214 jim.moen@sasktel.net
              Bert Vandenberg, Saskatoon cell (306) 221-2039
              office (306) 966-8786 bert.vandenberg@usask.ca
              Robert Hundeby, Elbow cell (306) 260-8338 office
              (306) 854-4702 rob.hundeby@gmail.com
              Trevor Simpson, Moose Jaw office (306) 693-
              9402 trevor@simpsonseeds.com

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                #22
                This is BS. Running a press release endorsing two
                candidates so they can carry their agenda at the board
                table.

                If you ask me even though I don't know these guys
                personally, I won't vote for them because I don't like
                how the three amigos ran on a slate last year.

                I know John Bennett and have the greatest respect for
                him. He makes reasoned decisions and has been an
                innovator his entire life.

                Vicki can be a shit disturber, but won't be run over by
                the three amigos.

                The pulse growers are in control of many millions of
                dollars. We can't let the three amigos gain control of the
                board.

                I too would push for a voluntary checkoff if this
                happened.

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                  #23
                  I hate old boys clubs. Arrogance.

                  If they want to be politicians they should go to another calling.

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                    #24
                    No individuals will let their name stand in the next
                    election, with out the endorsement of the board,
                    why would they? Shame

                    This is wrong, another conflict of interest,
                    manipulation. What is the risk, why the push to
                    maintain "control", what's broken?

                    Looks like a public meeting should be held to get
                    the conflicts, policies with wants and needs in the
                    open.

                    Shame, the negative campaigning. It looks like a
                    personal attack on all work, and effort of the other
                    candidates, a attack on their integrity?

                    Some times the easiest decision is not to make
                    one. Is youth really the experience and
                    contribution a organization with needs wants or
                    requires.

                    I vote for voluntary levy.

                    I believe exclusive varieties, with my levy dollars
                    should be available for all to grow. Many
                    companies now have International exposurure. I
                    have to wonder how many of our newest, latest,
                    and best varieties are in other countries at the
                    same time I have access to them? I see a
                    opportunity to generate a new revenue stream, at
                    what cost? Undermining our Sask and national
                    competitiveness, while the shameless promotion
                    benefits the company's promoting the varieties.

                    Looks to me like all candidates are qualified, and
                    with opions. Thanks to all for putting your good
                    names and integrity forward.

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                      #25
                      To be fair every commodity association is
                      struggling for farm leaders. It would be safe to
                      say that anyone who has run for a position was
                      "recruited" or if they had issues encouraged to
                      run.
                      Maybe the three incumbents are just being more
                      upfront? I hope the real issues come forward
                      before the election. I can only get bits and bites
                      from those who might know. Mostly differences in
                      policy nothing serious, but with the dollars at
                      stake......
                      Chances of a special meeting during the election
                      are slim to none IMHO. Maybe they could start
                      having election after Crop production week.
                      Turnout for the AGM is likely better than the voter
                      turnout. I think I was told it was 12% last time.

                      Apathy is the enemy!

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                        #26
                        I take the "shit disturber' label as a compliment and you bet, I will look after producer interests!

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                          #27
                          Haveapulse/ Vicci. I meant it both ways. Good
                          luck thanks for putting your name forward.

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                            #28
                            Sumdumguy: You said Some large companies could be way over their bond, and nobody would know.

                            Isn't the CGC's job to make sure these guys are bonded and then monitor them so they don't go over bond or make them increase value of bond?

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                              #29
                              cotton we have this in australia but its
                              not quite like what your thinking of.

                              cleargrain.com.au

                              baiscally ebay for grain clear is the
                              clearing house buyer dont know sellers
                              and vice versa

                              transaction is agreed on grain goes to
                              clear and buyer money goes to clear when
                              clear get the money buyers get the grain
                              if buyer defaults within the 7 days
                              grain goes back to seller risk free

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                                #30
                                SDG,

                                "The bond system didnt work well enough. The audit process comes way after the fact. Large companies could be way over their bond and no one would know."

                                Primary Elevators are allowed to count inventory as assets for reporting purposes.... WHICH is right. Grain Dealers were NOT allowed this opportunity... which made the bond required much greater.

                                It is now an option; if being covered by insurance... it is up to the insurance co. to make sure assets are there... or the insurance policy pays the grower. Functionally now this is already an option under the 'old' legislation. EDC is providing an 'assurity' for security of grower liabilities for some buyers. Others can provide a Bank Bond with less cost to themselves for the security needed.

                                Under the new legislation... the CGC can hire a 3rd party to cover admin and liabilities (if they see value to growers)... so grower security could be better than under the present system.

                                THis way the more stable buyers pay a lower cost... and more risky buyers pay more. Which is as it should be. Growers should not be paying for security... other than in the buyers basis; as has been the case for a century.

                                Cheers

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