More bad news for lentils and peas

[iceman]

Short AGT

Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please.
Iceman out

[westernvicki]

India has had a goal of self sufficiency for years, this year with higher plantings and good growing conditions it appears Indians are willing to slam the border shut on long term suppliers. For how long is yet to be determined as the reality is production goes up and down, continuously; the border will reopen at some time, and to we should hope, a much less complacent exporter.


All that is clear is this Trump is not alone in the "my country first policy".


Expanding markets and consumption is essential: did you eat or promote the consumption of beans, peas, chickpeas or lentils today?

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[Quadtrack]

The criticism of the pulse checkoff and people that put time in to make the industry better for everyone is unwarranted.
This trade issue has been on-going for a long time and is not nearly as easy to solve as it may appear. The concern from India centres around soil presence and the possible existence of a nematode they feel could be harmful to their agriculture. We do not have the nematode species they are concerned with, but can have others. A soil-free shipment doesn't exist. And an exporting country cannot simply dictate to a customer importer what their requirements ought to be.
When they desperately need the product, they take it. Currently, with better domestic production that they have had for a while, import need has eased, but their pulse prices have fallen -the government wants Indian farmers to keep growing a lot of pulses, so uncertainty around imports can help achieve that.
There has and is a ton of work going on to diversify the market-to obviously lessen the reliance on a few big markets. That doesn't not come easy nor happen overnight. It takes a long time to change the consumption behaviour of a North American for example.
We have to continue to trade with India and China if we want to keep selling large quantities of pulse crops. This dispute will get ironed out. And it will only happen government to government-pulse organizations have a role and are doing it, but ultimately international trade must be enabled by the fed gov and international trade rules.
The value of check off dollars in keeping trade happening thru informing government on issues of importance, working together with industry to identify what needs to be done, and ensuring growers interests are prominent easily returns many more dollars in every farmers pocket than the cost of the levy. One issue is that not enough of us take the time to learn about our industry and all that is being done.
It's fine to question what is being done or how it is being done, but to assume those involved are not doing anything is wrong.

[sumdumguy]

1) the order expires March 31...
2) the price in india has puked...that's why they are in limbo...if the l/c is opened they lose. Hopefully you took 25% upfront before loading.

Send them to Bangladesh or Pakistan if they are red lentils. Call all the smaller marketers. They will find a home for them.

[sumdumguy]

Short AGT

Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please.
Iceman out

You got it!

[westernvicki]

As usual ....let our checkoff dollars wait until it's a crisis.....management of farmer's checkoff or advocate money have dropped the ball...and the guys that buy and load our product. ...


But as usual it comes back to farmers financially.....

The ****ing middleman lives well off us and still sends us the bill for their incompetence....

Rather than renaming varieties or selling varieties to processors for a pittance .....how about seeking a permanent solution rather than 6 month reprieves. ....

The one thing SPG could have done differently was to not: "sell(ing) varieties to processors for a pittance" when the board renewed the exclusive niche market tenders last year, other than that the decisions made in India are not within our control.

Could they make statements about how damaging this is to our industry from a producer perspective, yes, however India will do what is good for India in the end.

The key is diversity and diversification, please do your part.

[STR1]

They want to fumigate raw product and add it to soup..........and we are worried about pre harvest desiccation? Seems odd?

[LEP]

Here is a question for someone. How long does methyl Bromide take to gas off?

With the time the container takes on the ocean in transit could we not toss the Methyl Bromide in as the container is being loaded on the ship and it would gas off once the ship begins to get to warmer climates. Done by the time it reaches the dock in India.

Likely not an answer for the problem, but just an idea.

[bucket]

I may have spoke too harsh....I will just keep paying my mandatory checkoff and shut the **** up......

Does that suit everyone ....good then. ...let's let AGT and simpson seeds and other carve out their niche markets for a small percentage of growers while using checkoff dollars instead of their own....

And when they have an exporting problem they can solve it on their own .... right?????.....

And let's just forget I said some of these issues should be solved to a mutually beneficial solution.....and a practical procedures set in place for the future.....

But defending shit like this is the same reason union contracts of any sort don't get settled on time....and both management and union are to blame....same as India and Canada players here with pay scales and intelligence far more than mine....

I'll shut up now. ....I have stated my issues.....

[farmaholic]

Is aeration and/or desorption time required after the fumigation procedure with methyl bromide? How air tight are the sea cans?

India is asking for a procedure that is likely impossible under some of the weather conditions in Canada certain times of the year. How many times/years were exemptions granted? Price control......