So History Repeats Itself - Gerald Pilger Conutry Guide

[fjlip]

"but has anyone been keeping track of the radioactivity, and the spread there of, of the Pacific ocean after the Fukushima disaster?"

I would BET that is all covered up so as NOT to alarm the masses. We could ALL be "****ashemad" by now and don't know it.

"How long before they have dependable electric tractors/highway tractors/passenger vehicles?...."

Where the hell would all that electricity come from? Many times today's consumption... big f*cking joke.

[farmaholic]

Fj...onboard diesel generator driving electric motors at each wheel. Not electric car style stuff with batteries that needs to be plugged in. I have no idea about the engineering hurdles with torque, etc. How much diesel would it require compared to tradional tractors? I don't know.... Safety?.....

[sumdumguy]

Chuck, you buffoon, I was going to say, "I hope your paste finger gets stuck in your nose", but I'll control myself.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Good analogy, but what is not mentioned. Once tractor technology improved, and the concept proved itself, farmers ALL switched over on their own accord. No government intervention or punitive taxes on horses. Just like will happen this time around. When the technology is better than what it is replacing, with or without government meddling.

[WiltonRanch]

Christ if anyone had to go back to horses for farming everyone would ****ing starve. Consider in those days 25% of your acres needed to be allocated to feeding the bloody things. Not to mention how many out of shape farmers would have a coronary from harnessing and hooking a five up on the sulky plow. My experience driving horses I might make out okay. Renewables will have their place as well as non renewables in the future. However, if and when we exhaust the last of our coal and petroleum reserves which I don't think I'll see it, mankind will cull itself out. Like Einstein said the fourth war won't be fought with guns and bombs but sticks and fists.

[farmaholic]

AGCO RECENTLY built a prototype RoGator with a 650v generator to power motors that drive the wheels. Called the ElectRoGator, the vehicle is based on a RoGator 1386 high-clearance applicator and is equipped with a 311-hp engine. The electric-drive system saves 20% in fuel and results in 30% more power to the ground. Machinery manufacturers like AGCO are exploring electric systems to take the place of hydraulics and run auxiliary systems like fans and air conditioning. See video of the machine atfarmindustrynews.com/tv.

[Hopalong]

Going back to tractor-horse analogy, Canada and United States had similar tax policy on mechanized eguipment. There was no special tax to discourage use of horses.
Considering potential environmental and economic damage from warmer climate and rising sea levels, we might expect other countries to go first in limiting greenhouse gas emissions..
Carbon tax would have been more acceptable in Canada if United States had gone along.
Continued success of Trump economic policy will put pressure on Trudeau government to adopt a more integrated approach on emission limits.

[chuckChuck]

Gerald Pilger's article in Country Guide told one story about the resistance to moving to tractors from horses. Many people don't like change.

I don't think any of us are able to see what the future will hold for new technology. There are still many farmers and farm families that don't use computers at all or very much.

The reality is renewable energy sources are getting much cheaper and will likely replace a lot of old technology. How much and how fast is still an open question.

As Pilger pointed out it doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not the world is moving on.

[blackpowder]

That is true, the world is always moving on. I just dont believe we can quite yet predict the future. And I'm not sure I follow the future that has been preordained for me by the experts.
The Country Guide is free because it is worth that. An editorial in the Scientific American tells me that "climate deniers" rank with the 911 conspiracy theorists etc. I will admit I dont know. But that really tells me that academia has closed the book and is moving on. To graduate school, sell a magazine, or get elected you have to SAY you believe.
I say again, I dont know. I admit I cannot know the future. I am not convinced current common knowledge "knows" the answer either. An interesting, never before attempted social experiment, is about to unfold over the next century. I dont think anyone can see where it will take us. Except of course those of us who know everything already.

[chuckChuck]

So if we don't use peer reviewed science from experts in their field who focus their careers on knowing what is going on, what is the alternative? Do you think farmers at the coffee shop or on Agriville can understand the science of climate change better than climate change scientist? Do you think you know more than your Doctor about disease and medicine?

Do you really think non experts without this detailed education and experience can make good decisions without relying on the experts?

Science evolves as knowledge and technology evolves. Without advanced mathematics, physics, and chemistry and biology most of the modern world as you and I know it would not exist. You and I would not likely be here as our ancestors would have died from infection or malnutrition.