Yellow Peas 2007

[lakenheath]

Just throwing this one out there. And no, I am not suggesting a CPB (Canadian Pea Board).

Any thoughts on prices going into 2007? Right now there are $5.25 bids in our area. I can pencil in peas quite easily at that price.

I know chickpea prices supported the peas price up to now. A huge shift in chickpea acres could pull down pea price next year? Hard to say. Any thoughts?

Any forward contracts being offered that are attractive?

[melvill]

lakenheath, you didn't say whether the $5.25 bid was for old-crop or for new- crop. If it's for new-crop, can you give us an idea of the location and delivery period? Thanks.

[lakenheath]

Sorry, hope that was not misleading. It is just an old crop bid. I am hoping that the strength of the old crop bids carry somewhat into the new crop year. I guess time, seeded acres, demand, dollar and yield will tell.

[bgmb]

have not heard any new crop bids
Has anyone????

[bgmb]

Hey guys, not to change the subject here, but I've never grown peas yet. I was considering it for next year. Lakenheath, or whoever for that matter would you recommend Yellows or Greens? Also don't have to give detailed figures but, how much cheaper are your inputs in a $/acre number versus Canola??

If you want to be specific, its up to you.

Thanks would appreciate any feedback.

[seedsman]

Did a partial budget with a nieghbor the other day. This was irrigated canola versus irrigated peas.

Fertilizer $54 more for canola
Seed 20 more
Fungicide 20 more
Insecticide 12 more
Herbicides 10 less
Swathing 15 more
Irrigation 25 more

Total 136 more for canola

For dryland in this area, canola was only $60 more than dryland peas. No fungicide, insecticide and much less N on dryland.

[just_wondering]

seedsman dod you use starter Phos on your peas? We have for years but are thinking of stopping just to save on phos costs and you have that extra tank on your seeder for peas.
Most exiting thing I saw was growing chickpeas without inoculant but using 50lbs n the sience is showing that without the inoculant the plant starts to set seed and might ripen up to 10 days earlier.
I might try it I haven't lost my A$$ in Chickpeas in a couple years

Lakenheath we grow yellows they don't bleach as much have better local markets here mid west Sask choose the best variety for your area

[just_wondering]

the reply to Lakenheath should have been to snappy

[seedsman]

just wondering---we use starter P, some growers use TagTeam instead.

greens vs yellow---there are more varieties of yellows, and overall yellows are generally a bit better agronomically (therefore lower risk). The advantage of greens is that about half the time there will be a premium for greens, sometimes small, sometimes at least $2/bushel. But there is a risk that bleaching will result in the green downgrading to feed instead of human consumption.

So for your first attempt at growing peas, grow some yellows because of the lower risk. If you are buying new seed, pick a variety with powdery mildew resistance, and good lodging resitance. Good luck.

[bgmb]

In my experience tag team is a very good product. Tag team is a peat based nitrogen inoculant combined with "jump start" a product that frees up unavailable phos in your soil. On my farm the jump start increased the available phosphate in my soil for a few years after i used it and gave me a heck of a crop of peas.

[TOM4CWB]

Snappy,

We often grow yellow peas, and can almost always move them as human consumption right off the Combine.

Then allow pre-pricing, and most elevators will handle them... where many times greens become feed at a big discount far too easily.

India has been a good market for our yellow peas, and has allowed a more fluid human consumption trade at reasonable prices, they aren't near as picky as the green pea market... because of the way they are used.
Customers in the diverse many different countries where many of the greens go often leave them whole till they are eaten... which makes them much more picky with green peas.

[lakenheath]

Harvestability is very important trait in pea variaties. There are some great yielding newer varieties out there that offer a good disease package, good yield and superior harvestability.

Do get cheap seed that is out-dated, you will kick yourself. And don't cut back your seeding rate to save costs. You will see better weed control and yield at the higher seeding rates.

We also used to fertilizer our peas and have moved away from that with good success. I do, however, recommend using starter fertilizer on land that has never had pulses before as there is a lack of nature occuring rizobio in the soil and the crop might need that extra boost.

[lakenheath]

Typo- "do get cheap out-dated" seed should read "don't"

[lakenheath]

Thanks guys. I was actually suprised to see that big of a difference vs Canola though.

[Pulseman]

Can we come back to the question of prices for 2007 production YP? Guess some pressure will come into the croping plans. Canola acres to increase, grain prices realtively good, pea prices have come up, so, the big question: where will acres go? If the users of peas want supply for 07/08, we need to see C$6.00/bushel for yellows by end of March. If they are not intersted, we will see what we have now, C$5.00 to 5.25. If price goes to 6.00 then canola needs to go higher, C$9.00 - 10.00.

Just a thought.