Ethanol from barley and peas?

[melvill]

Anyone know much about Clean Country Resources, that plans to produce ethanol from feed barley and peas at Hartney, Manitoba?

If it's true, there goes my theory that barley has too low starch and too high fibre for ethanol production. And peas?

[craig]

Melvill
Did a little research and they are planning to use 70% barley and 30% peas.Couldn't find anymore specifics.Reality is that you can use almost any grain for ethanol. A producer group may place more emphasis on the by product.

[TOM4CWB]

Lee,

The process can extract a portion of the grain (a high px product) and use the starch side of the product for ethanol production side of the project.

Air Classification can now extract out these types of products at relativiely low cost.

[Braveheart]

Right now, the Hartney project is concentrating on barley and peas. I think this is mainly for a new market for these crops and also the byproducts would be in demand in this region.

Our community (50 minutes from Hartney) has an ethanol plant currently in the feasabilty study stage. The consultants doing our study have said that barley is a poor choice as it is too abrasive on the milling equipment. This would result in higher mainentence costs and lower overall margins.

[ianben]

Here is an extract from an article on world-grain .com

He reckoned Europe is going to have to look at other feedstocks for its biodiesel plants. "The E.U. is considering relaxing the biodiesel standards so as to open the market to other oils such as palm and soy oil," Dadd said. "They’ve realized that they aren’t going to be able to supply the amounts they need with **** oil."

There are problems with imports of **** from Canada, which might be an obvious source, because of Europe’s objection to genetically modified crops. "You can’t use GM material," he said. "That means you can’t import GM canola from Canada, because you have the problem of what to do with the meal."

However, there is a way around that, he said: "What you can do is import the oil from Canada — that way no GM protein gets into Europe."

Another problem he identified was what to do with the byproducts. "Glycerol, for example, which is used by the cosmetics industry, has come down in price sharply because it is produced as a byproduct of making biodiesel.

As the ethanol industry expands byproduct values /disposal seem to be more and more important both to the siting of the plant and products used in production.

As I mentioned in another thread UK will produce bio-diesel for use in Germany and Sweden just to reduce the amount of **** meal biproduct in these countries.

What are the properties of thie barley /pea bi-product?

Can it be fed to hogs or chickens?