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    #16
    BennyHinn,

    1. One shouldn't be an organic farmer if you are not prepared to maintain Identity Preserved records, because an audit trail is mandatory, and by presuming I hate faxing, it shows your unsurprising lack of understanding of IP.

    2. You are fully accusing IP certification as faulty and leaky because you do not understand what IP certification entails.

    The IP template is quickly being adopted, no embraced, by many sectors of agriculture, and a great deal of time and money is spent on being able to trace a product on the plate to the farmgate.

    IP newcomers such as Cattle, trait specific products, etc. will continue to adapt, and each member of the IP chain will only be as valuable as his credibility trail.

    If you are accusing certification programs, national or private, as being leaky or trying to impersonate, or being downright dishonest, I would suggest that you be prepared to prove your allegations or you should retract your statement.

    Coming from a producer who is content to dump his year's work in the stronghold of some ship headed for a Third-worlder doesn't lend you any credibility with those couting an entirely different market.

    4. You have indicated time and time again, you want to continue what you are doing, and I say go at it, but others are targeting what wealthy consumers want. Producers target different customers.

    5.The CWB has lists and lists and lists over years and years and years and years of busy work...compilation and revisions of all the organic certification bodies, and is easily able to call that organization to see if Fransisco or craig is a certified member.

    If he is, the amount of grain being exported must reconcile with the audit sheet that every organic farmer has to commit to.

    6. There is an entire well-paid CWB organic department on red-alert currently sporting a $0.00 sales record, with nothing else to do except call the certification bodies to beg the agencies' update information on new members, so the CWB can update as well.

    7. The CWB could easily grant the license to the organic farmer on the list or deny the export license to craig because he is not on the list.

    It's that simple. No giggly-assed organic department to pay for. Just a CWB licensing staffer calling a cerification body to check if the licensing applicant is on the list.

    The reason this does not happen is why? There is a non-productive department sitting ready to do what? Send out anti-Strahl material?

    8. Whether it is an organic farmer, or a conventional farmer, or goat farmer, or a pincherry farmer, I will continue to support the undeniably essential under-written principle that must be inherent in farming....farmers must be able to sell what they grow.

    Parsley

    PS
    Picking out who you want to partner with in marriage,in fun, or in business is not necessarily determined by what religion you are or what company you work for or what label beer you drink. What draws people together? It's hard to put a finger on.

    I asked you the question if you were ok with your money being spent sending letters to the editor. You deliberately chose not to answer. Instead you attacked the credibility of the audit of IP systems.

    That exhibits, best, exactly what I do not want in a business partner, BennyHinn.


    Parsley

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      #17
      I appreicate your data if you wouldn't mind sending to jholm@blbgraingroup.com. Thanks!

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        #18
        I never was very good at math so correct me if I am wrong. If they are selling wheat now for $ 6.95 per bushel and the average price ( PRO ) is $ 4.40 per bushel that would mean that they sold a equal number of bushels at $ 1.85 per bushel. Perhaps to Algeria?

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          #19
          Correct me if I"m wrong, as I'n not very good at exporting, but don't the Algerian sales go through an Accredited Exporter?

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            #20
            Hope you both got the information. Let me know what you think?

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              #21
              Great work! could you send me a copy to nw9flynn@hotmail.com

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                #22
                Benny hinn says"eventually you guys will win".Interesting.He already knows he's lost.Just fighting for the glorious cause.Guess what.The last year or 2 of most wars are the bloodiest.

                Sad though.The left knows they are selling a product nobody wants any more.They also know in their hearts,asMaggie Thatcher said"our ideas are better than theirs"but they fight on with religious zeal.

                If we're gonna change anyway,why not do it right now and stop losing opportunity?

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                  #23
                  Parsley: I never discounted the integrity of the organic certification regulations. What I said is that people like Fransisco will always find a way to cheat the system, at your expense.

                  Fransisco: So what is it Coke or Pepsi? I was thinking you were a Red Bull fan.

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                    #24
                    Care to elaborate benny? Or is innuendo just another one of your dull knives? You must have picked it up at the Heather Frayne school for gifted communicators. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

                    The only cheating I see is coming from the monopolists who are doing everything in their collective power to make sure their neighbors can't make an honest buck by making an honest deal with an honest buyer.

                    It's to bad they can't even be true to themselves. Like winwin says 'its a board fetish'. If the board says a little more freedom its good, if the board say no more freedom that's good as well. Whatever the board says goes.

                    You claim to like 'mixing it up' when it comes to the so-called CWB marketing options but you want to deny your neighbors their right to mix it up in the manner that they see working best on their farms.

                    Somehow you see yourself gaining from the current system even though your neighbors are telling you that they are losing. So then your gain, whatever that may be, is coming at their expense and they have absolutely no choice in the matter.

                    There is a name for this kind of an arangement, and it's not buisness.

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                      #25
                      And by the way I'm...


                      <b>Bi-Col'er</b>

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                        #26
                        What is the yellow pea to grow this year.
                        I was thinking golden or bronco, now a seed grower is telling me Midas will beat them. Any experience with midas would be appretiated.

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                          #27
                          Grainbattle and BenHin,

                          I find the CWB logic interesting here!

                          If Ontario/US prices are are truly $1/bu lower than the grain prices the CWB gets... and since the law of one price drove them there...

                          How can the CWB get $1/bu more than the price of one law will allow in this competitive market place?

                          How can the CWB have it both ways... at the same time? THis applies to all markets not just Ontario... the CWB only has a effective monopoly over flour mills in the "designated area".

                          In western Canada, the chooses to use NAFTA formula pricing instead of using the monopoly it has to differentiate and extract a premium.

                          How exactly does any of this return growers in the "designated area" a premium price?

                          Driving costs out of our system, through competition, while keeping the "profit" the "multi-nationals" would extract... through our own "CWBII" logically would provide the highest return... seems to me!

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