I had a dream two...

[dmlfarmer]

The thread, I had a dream..., which I posted on marketing was not arguing covid, or vaccines, but was about attitudes of posters on agriville - attitudes which have reared their heads again over a facetious dream post. But seeing as it has upset a number of you, I will move it to this forum and delete it from marketing. Here are all the posts before deleting:

dmlfarmer
DEC 20, 2021 | 06:571
Twas the night before Christmas and all over the farm
not a creature was stirring, there was no cause for alarm.
The bins were all checked and sealed with great care
in hopes that by spring, markets still would be there.

The cows are all preg checked and all had been fed
and deep piles of straw are providing warm beds.
So mamma in her kerchief and I in my cap
had just settled in for a long winter’s nap.

When out in the yard there rose such a clatter
I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the window, I flew like a flash,
tore open the shutters, and threw up the sash

The moon on the breast of the new fallen snow
gave a lustre of mid-day to the farm yard below.
But spoiling the view, without any facts,
was a cadre of agrivillers opposing the vax.

Emboldened by admin that gave them free reign
to spread their BS without any restrain.
They jeered and they shouted unsubstantiated claims
started by conspiracy artists playing Q games.

Following this group, those with heads in the sand,
demanding: “speak of the vax on this site should be banned!”
So fed up with Covid, that they no longer can see
that by limiting speech, no one is free.

Not far behind were climate change critics
who think they know more than all the analytics
that show climate change is real, and a threat to us all,
but they claim it’s all fraud and point out the nice fall.

Next were those who hope Canada fails
as they think separation answers all Prairie’s ails
A strategy that has never worked in the past.
But will surely this time, or at least the end will be fast!

Marching along were those who love to call names
socialists and communists are their biggest defames.
Post a contrary view, or a comment they don’t like -
well you must be a Liberal and most likely a dyke.

The biggest group in the yard, by 90%, if not more
were those who see Trudeau as a government w***e.
Screwing the farmers, to enrich those down east.
Pillaging the west to provide Quebec with a feast.

It was at that moment that I awoke with a start
hoping the nightmare was just a brain fart.
I looked out the window and found the farm that I love
At peace with the world, a blessing from above.

I turned on the computer and keyed the agriville site
and found the forum I had left was still a cockfight.
Misinformation, complaints, and hatred galore!
After being gone for a month, twas really a bore.

Comments so childish, whinny, and sad.
Are all farmers who post, really this bad?
No wonder we’re ignored, and seen as redneck
When we cannot even keep our keyboards in check.

When did we lose our respect for another?
Where did we leave our compassion for others?
Why, at this time, do so many still hate?
Do we not see what we write determines our fate?

If there’s really a Santa, here is my hope:
In spite of ag’s problems, all farmers will cope.
And to all the complainers and spreaders of bull
may you find you half empty glass is actually half full!
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sumdumguy

DEC 20, 2021 | 07:492
It comes down from the top. Reply With Quote Like

TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 08:133

AMEN 5 stars!

It is more blessed to give than Receive,
God Loves fellowship this Christmas Season.
Humanity is complicated, is slow to believe,
Salvation of our souls through Jesus the Reason!

Farmers are special of this no doubt,
Those on Agriville have hearts that are stout,
Many choice words of friendship and fear,
Commodity Management this perhaps about!

Good Cheer and pleasant marketing in 2022,
Good health and safety as we travel this road,
Humanity served with good food by each of you.
Many thanks for your ideas, good prices for all left unsold!!!

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TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 08:414
My Fear, My Hope, My Fight,
May I Be Humble, Be Fruitful, Be Light,
Many Blessings, Merry Christmas, a great 2022,
Our wonderful creator is patient, I hope you can be too! Reply With Quote Like

TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 08:505
Quote Originally Posted by TOM4CWB View Post
My Fear, My Hope, My Fight,
May I Be Humble, Be Fruitful, Be Light,
Many Blessings, Merry Christmas, a great 2022,
Our wonderful creator is patient, I hope you can be too!
Dont know what happened Jwab... your post vanished!!!

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Sheepwheat
DEC 20, 2021 | 08:506
Admin. Please remove this drivel from this forum. It mentions Covid. It is derogatory towards those who do not tow the line, and it is utterly ridiculous.

Thank you. Reply With Quote Like
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AlbertaFarmer5

DEC 20, 2021 | 08:587
they think separation answers all Prairie’s ails
A strategy that has never worked in the past.

I am confused by this statement.

When has this been tried in the past?

I've read the history books, and I somehow missed the previous times the west separated. Reply With Quote Like
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TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 09:118

Humanity is complicated our dreams tell our heart,
Commodity Mangement is interesting some say an Art,
Some say the horse before the cart,
Others claim our dreams a brainfart!

No matter one thing is clear,
Here is to goodwill a happy newyear! Reply With Quote Like

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jazz
DEC 20, 2021 | 09:239
Profound, I am without words. Reply With Quote Like

[dmlfarmer]

Part 2 of copy and move:

Sheepwheat
DEC 20, 2021 | 09:2610
Fine

One jab, two jabs,
They didn’t work,
Three jabs, four jabs
You’ll get your perk

Mask up ensure,
Stop the spread
Wait a minute
Hold on now,
Two weeks were a blur

Vaxxed cases lookout
They’re now in the lead
They’re called a breakout,
So what do we need?
Booster, booster
Jabs One two and three.

Is this allowed,
This poetry?
That’s what we need
Trust the government, the experts
To whom you have bowed.

I bow to my Savour,
God in human form,
No man, no politician
Deserves my bent knee.

He gave me
Total freedom
That Moe took away,
This whole thing is crazy
Don’t look the other way.

Forgive me, please
If I don’t understand
Maybe it’s a tease,
Why are you letting
the government hold your hand?

You fought for
The freedom
To sell your own grain
Yet it seems that you feel
They now work for your gain

Merry Christmas.
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Hamloc
DEC 20, 2021 | 09:2811
Well Dml you have managed to insult pretty well every person on Agriville, I hope this makes you happy.

Dml I put a quick post on rural issues specifically for you that I hope you read.
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Blaithin
DEC 20, 2021 | 09:3312
For****sake 😂 Reply With Quote Like
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AlbertaFarmer5
DEC 20, 2021 | 09:3613

I just counted, and on the top page here today, 22 of the most recent 25 threads are directly ag or economy related.

I checked a few random pages from last summer, it was less than half ag or econ related. And that was by thread count. Post count was much much worse.

That seems like very good progress.

And even better yet, Chuck hasn't started a pot stirring off topic thread for a month now.

Members are starting to return.

And contrary to the hopes and dreams of Chuck himself, the forum hasn't withered away into obscurity without his valueless input.

Let's keep up the good work. Reply With Quote Like
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AlbertaFarmer5
DEC 20, 2021 | 12:2914
And, as an added bonus, free speech is alive and well.
Members appear to be free to post any information, or misinformation they like, without fear of being censored, as long as they do so in the appropriate forum.

But for whatever reason, only one side of the debate has chosen to take advantage of this opportunity.

I propose a few possible reasons.
1) The opposing side really could care less about the issues, this faux outrage was all about attracting attention to themselves, good or bad, so when they were banished to the back 40 where there was no audience to perform for, they lost interest.
2) They are such poor ineffective debaters that their best hope was to silence the opposition with censorship, or at least overwhelm them with quantity, when the administrators made it obvious that they are not in the censorship business, the poor debaters accepted defeat and gave up.
3) The message they were supporting was so weak as to be completely untenable, so that their only hope had been to silence through censorship, or overwhelm through shear volume of insults, any opposition. When admins wouldn't go along with their censorship, they accepted that they could never win the debate when the facts were not in their favour, so they quit. ( and I'm not saying this is true).

Any other possible explanation why one entire side of the debate just disappeared all at once, except for the odd sore loser post such as todays? Reply With Quote Like

agstar77
DEC 20, 2021 | 13:2015
No one with an ounce of common sense wants to post in the purgatory social issues has become. Reply With Quote Like

TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 13:2516

1) You can tell a farmer,
But like truck drivers… you sure can’t tell farmers much!!!

2) It must be in our jeans!

3) In the Great White North, the climate creates innovative independent farmers, who are expected to do next to the impossible, with blood sweat and tears, overcome our fears, and grow high quality food for a hungry world!

Merry Christmas!
May Agriville live long and Prosper!!! Reply With Quote Like

AlbertaFarmer5
DEC 20, 2021 | 13:3517
Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
No one with an ounce of common sense wants to post in the purgatory social issues has become.
But why? Of the three possibilities I pondered above, which would you say applies to yourself? Reply With Quote Like

TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 13:4118

Kind of like thinking about farming where:

National Corn Yield Contest
602-BPA Field Earns Hula Top Honors in National Corn Yield Contest
12/15/2021 | 10:49 AM CST
Emily Unglesbee
By Emily Unglesbee , DTN Staff Reporter

David Hula, of Charles City, Virginia, grew 602-bushel-per-acre corn this year, which topped the National Corn Growers annual yield contest and cemented Hula's status as one of the corn farming industry's all-time greats. (DTN photo by Joel Reichenberger)
ROCKVILLE, Md. (DTN) -- Corn yields surpassing 600 bushels per acre (bpa) used to be unthinkable. For David Hula, they're becoming routine.

With a no-till, irrigated field of Pioneer's P1222YHR hitting 602.17 bushels per acre, Hula, of Charles City, Virginia, has once again topped the National Corn Yield Contest -- and cemented his status of one of the corn farming industry's all-time greats.

The field is, after all, the second time Hula -- or any contest participant -- has crested 600 bpa. In 2019, he set his fourth world record with a field that hit 616 bpa.

Hula told DTN he credits ever-improving corn genetics and his region's longtime focus on fertilizer efficiency with helping him scale the towering heights of corn yield potential.

"This is beyond what we thought the theoretical yield limit could even be," he marveled. "Genetics is the first big thing. Second is that water quality in the Chesapeake Bay area has forced us to be so much more efficient with fertilizer -- the timing of the application, the placement, the rates, the nutritional balance."

Hula's quest for corn's highest limits has become a family affair. The second-highest yield in the 2021 contest was raised by his son, Craig Hula, also of Charles City, Virginia, with the same variety, Pioneer's P1222YHR. His plot hit 583.07 bpa and landed him in second place in the no-till, irrigated category.

Truly a field of dreams!!! Reply With Quote

[dmlfarmer]

Part 3 copy and move;
agstar77
DEC 20, 2021 | 13:4419
Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
But why? Of the three possibilities I pondered above, which would you say applies to yourself?
Read my lips no one with an ounce of common sense wants to post in the purgatory they asked for. They don't even realize they have been exiled.
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AlbertaFarmer5
DEC 20, 2021 | 13:5620
Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
Read my lips no one with an ounce of common sense wants to post in the purgatory they asked for. They don't even realize they have been exiled.
That would appear to be a vote for number 1 then? By referring to the appropriate forum as purgatory and exile, it would seem that you feel that your efforts wouldn't derive enough attention to be justified.

If you go to home depot and insist on using the display toilets to do your business, and they politely inform you that there are public washrooms where they would prefer you do your business more discreetly, do you throw a tantrum about being exiled into purgatory?
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TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 14:0421
Speaking of Fields of Dreams…Today from the Red River Farm Network:

Renewable Diesel: A Market Disrupter – Ag Resource Company President Dan Basse believes the push toward renewable diesel will be the most disruptive factor in agriculture for the next few years. “With states like California providing tremendous subsidies and mandating 700 million gallons of usage, you can see how quickly this is all ramping up.” This policy change will have a dramatic impact on the soybean oil market. “If I take the existing, under construction and proposed or announced plants, I come up with U.S. soybean oil demand doubling in the next three years.” If these soybean crush plants all come online, Basse said the U.S. will need an additional 40 million acres of soybeans to meet the demand. During the Farm Foundation Forum, Basse said it seems impossible to see that kind of growth, but this demand factor will significantly change the agricultural landscape.“

Vegetable Oil Shortages Weigh on Markets – Shortages in the vegetable oil market are pushing the grain markets higher. Market advisor Mike Krueger says this shortage is two-fold. “People want to be bearish on the soybeans, because there’s talk about record crop production for North America in 2022. Then, they’re already forecasting a record crop in Brazil. On the other hand, canola ending stocks are nearing zero, not just because of the drought, but worldwide.” Increasing biodiesel and renewable diesel demand could be a game changer. “If we start to throw oil demand into the picture, that’s going to support crushing economics for soybeans as well. We set all-time record highs for canola futures in the last month or two. It’s going to take time to get crush facilities online and we may not be able to crush these in the next six months.”
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TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 14:3822
And then this:

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Takes Flight
Published December 16, 2021
United Airlines has completed the first flight operated with 100 percent sustainable aviation fuel. This flight went from Chicago to Washington, D.C. The Department of Energy has a goal of having renewable fuel meeting all of the aviation fuel needs by 2050. Reply With Quote Like

TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 14:5123
Red River Farm Network

Can you imagine this:

“ A national ambient air quality standard is also in the works with an announcement by August of next year. This is the proposal to regulate farm dust that came up during the Obama administration.”

Agenda
Published December 17, 2021
The Environmental Protection Agency released its unified agenda for the year ahead. The agency plans to release plans for the 2023 renewable volume obligations under the RFS by May and complete the rule one year from now. Canola oil is expected to be designated as an advanced biofuel during that time. EPA is also scheduled to issue the regulatory process for a new Waters of the United States rule in February. A national ambient air quality standard is also in the works with an announcement by August of next year. This is the proposal to regulate farm dust that came up during the Obama administration. Reply With Quote Like

agstar77
DEC 20, 2021 | 15:0724
Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
That would appear to be a vote for number 1 then? By referring to the appropriate forum as purgatory and exile, it would seem that you feel that your efforts wouldn't derive enough attention to be justified.

If you go to home depot and insist on using the display toilets to do your business, and they politely inform you that there are public washrooms where they would prefer you do your business more discreetly, do you throw a tantrum about being exiled into purgatory?
Social issues has turned into a number two. I would compare it to a smoking area. They can only delude each other. Reply With Quote Like

foragefarmer
DEC 20, 2021 | 16:0525
Quote Originally Posted by Sheepwheat View Post
Admin. Please remove this drivel from this forum. It mentions Covid. It is derogatory towards those who do not tow the line, and it is utterly ridiculous.

Thank you.
You started the thread asking if some posters were banned and gave a sermon on freedom of speech. Now your whining.

Remember the thread regarding Care Home Covid you started after we were all warned by Agriville Adm to cease from starting new Covid threads?

Did you have to sit it out for a week for not following Agriville Adm request?

And now you post a Covid poem, what should Agrville Adm do?
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fjlip
DEC 20, 2021 | 17:4626
On this forum, the Covidiots CONSTANTLY promoted questionable PRO vax statements, agreed with evil mandates, why stop now? You debated endlessly making fun of 1000's of facts/quotes from all over the planet. We know you read Rural, but you can't answer the avalanche of facts damming the evil narrative! Your silence tells all! Reply With Quote Like
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Sheepwheat
DEC 20, 2021 | 17:5327
Quote Originally Posted by foragefarmer View Post
You started the thread asking if some posters were banned and gave a sermon on freedom of speech. Now your whining.

Remember the thread regarding Care Home Covid you started after we were all warned by Agriville Adm to cease from starting new Covid threads?

Did you have to sit it out for a week for not following Agriville Adm request?

And now you post a Covid poem, what should Agrville Adm do?
Admin should move this thread as I asked. I do believe dml posted his Covid poetry first. I believe his was derogatory towards others. Snide, idiotic. Therefore against the supposed forum rules.

Free speech for some, not for others? Do you get it yet? Reply With Quote Like

TOM4CWB
DEC 20, 2021 | 18:0728
Living the Dream…

Good prices for lamb!

Good prices for wheat!

God Bless Canada!

Part of the character of Canadian culture…

Must be brain freeze… cold weather brings on low sunlight hours…a deficiency of our CDN pioneer spirit!

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jazz
DEC 20, 2021 | 18:1329
Quote Originally Posted by agstar77 View Post
Social issues has turned into a number two. I would compare it to a smoking area. They can only delude each other.
People afraid of their shadow are usually afraid of the truth because they bit hard and swallowed the narrative.

But more are waking up everyday. Reply With Quote Like
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fjlip
DEC 20, 2021 | 19:0430
That's why THEY are all reading Rural but can't counter the tsunami of evidence...what was believed truth is turning to sh it. Reply With Quote

[Taiga]

WTF is wrong with you

[TSIPP]

Stalk much?

[checking]

Stalk much?

Try corn!

What, besides your politics, is right with you. Stuck key, just like your one issue.

[TOM4CWB]

Local talent Greg K did this!

I been runnin down the road, tryin to loosen my load, I got seven variants on my mind. Four that wanna kill me, two that wanna scare me, one says it’s a friend of mine. Take it easy, take it easy, don’t let the sound of your own cough drive you crazy. Take a needle while you still can, don’t even try to understand, just find a mask for the task and take it easy. Well I’m standing on a corner in Killam Alberta, what a sad sight to see, it’s a girl my Lord, in a flatbed Ford, slowin down to give a mask to me.Merry

A little Killam Humour!

Merry Christmas!