Vaccine Side Effects

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[chuckChuck]

Myocarditis is also caused by covid 19 infection and Public health in Ontario still says the benefits of vaccine outweigh the small risk. You can read and overview about myocarditis risk below.

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/vaccines/2021/11/myocarditis-pericarditis-mrna-vaccines.pdf?sc_lang=en

From Public Health Ontario

Conclusions and Implications for Practice
ï‚· NACI continues to strongly recommend that a complete series with an mRNA vaccine should be
offered to all eligible individuals without contraindications, including those 12 years of age and
older.
ï‚· The benefits of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines continue to outweigh the risks of COVID-19 illness in
the authorized populations as mRNA vaccines are effective in reducing COVID-19 infections,
hospitalizations, and deaths.
ï‚· The Ontario Ministry of Health preferentially recommends the use of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19
vaccine for individuals 18-24 years and the continued use of Pfizer-BioNTech for individuals 12-
17 years of age.
ï‚· As a precautionary measure, NACI recommends that all individuals who have experienced
myocarditis/pericarditis following vaccination with a first dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine
should defer the second dose in the vaccination series until more information is available.
ï‚· Clinicians and vaccine-recipients need to maintain ongoing vigilance for this clinical syndrome.
All patients presenting symptoms concerning myocarditis/pericarditis in the following days after
COVID19 mRNA vaccination should be rapidly assessed in-person by a physician.
ï‚· Public Health Ontario will continue to monitor for reported events of myocarditis/pericarditis
following COVID-19 vaccination in partnership with the Ontario Ministry of Health and
federal/provincial/territorial vaccine safety networks, and will provide timely updates as more
information becomes available.

Overview of Myocarditis and Pericarditis
Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle and pericarditis is inflammation of the lining outside the
heart. Symptoms of both can include shortness of breath, chest pain, or the feeling of a rapid or abnormal
heart rhythm.1,2,4 Other non-cardiac symptoms can include fatigue, gastrointestinal symptoms (nausea,
vomiting, abdominal pain), dizziness or syncope, edema (swelling of the lower legs), or cough.4
In Ontario, baseline data for the period of 2015-2020 from the Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences
(ICES) was available using a broad definition of myocarditis and pericarditis from the 10th revision of the
International Classification of Diseases.8 The average annual incidence of myocarditis/pericarditis per
100,000 individuals for the following age groups was: 12-19 years (16.0, 95% confidence Interval [CI]: 15.1-
16.9), 20-29 years (27.3, 95% CI: 26.4-28.2), 30-39 years (27.7, 95% CI: 26.7, 28.7), and 40-49 years (28.6,
95% CI: 27.7-29.7). For Ontarians 80 years of age and older, the average annual incidence of
myocarditis/pericarditis (broad definition) was 78.1 per 100,000 individuals (95% CI: 75.3-81.0). Incidence
was consistently higher in males than females for each of the above age groups. (Kwong J, ICES, personal
communication email, 2021 Aug 5).
The list of possible causes or triggers for myocarditis/pericarditis is broad and includes both infectious (i.e.,
recent viral, bacterial, fungal, tuberculosis, parasitic infection) 9, and non-infectious triggers (i.e., auto-
immune, connective tissue disease, metabolic (e.g., renal), malignancy, trauma, toxins, drug-induced)4,10,.
Smallpox vaccination is the only vaccine that has ever been conclusively linked to myocarditis based on a
significantly higher relative risk.11
Myocarditis12,13 and pericarditis14 have also been associated with recent COVID-19 infection. In two case
studies and one cohort study, competitive athletes infected with SARS-CoV-2 had cardiac magnetic
resonance (cMR) findings consistent with myocarditis (1.4%, 2.3%, 15%, respectively).15-17 A large
nationwide Israeli study demonstrated that SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a substantially
increased risk of myocarditis (risk ratio, 18.28; 95% CI, 3.95 to 25.12; risk difference, 11.0 events per
100,000 persons; 95% CI, 5.6 to 15.8) and of additional serious adverse events, including pericarditis.18
Subsequent analysis demonstrated that the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after SARS-CoV-2 infection
increased in both males and females under and over the age of 40 years. Specifically, in young male
adolescents and adults ages 16-39 years old, there was an excess of 11.54 events of myocarditis per
100,000 persons (95% CI, 2.48 to 22.55)

[furrowtickler]

Remember, follow the science ...
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[fjlip]

Remember, follow the science ...
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Careful don't CHOKE on those facts...CC

[Guest]

Chuck. I can't believe this question has to be asked of you. How would you feel or what would be your stance if your child or wife died as a direct or indirect result of the vaccines? To you what is an acceptable level of collateral damage to supposedly save one life?
Be precise and honest please

[chuckChuck]

I don't know anyone who died or who had any of the serious side effects because the number of people getting any serious side effects is very small relative to the over 80 million doses of vaccines.

However I do know of several people getting seriously ill and in some cases dieing of covid.

We know that hospitals were full of and ICUs were very full of covid patients. Over 36,000 people died in Canada from Covid.

You can read all about vaccine safety and side affects at this link:

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/

"Up to and including April 1, 2022, a total of 327 reports with an outcome of death were reported following vaccination. Although these deaths occurred after being vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine, they are not necessarily related to the vaccine. Based on the medical case review using the WHO-UMC causality assessment categories, it has been determined that:
168 reports of deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
103 reports of deaths are unlikely linked to a COVID-19 vaccine
56 reports of death are still under investigation"

How come you never talk about the 36,992 covid deaths?

That number would have been many times higher without vaccinations available.

The benefits of vaccination far outweigh the risk of vaccines!

In 2019 prior to covid. 80,361 died of cancer, 53,284 people died of heart disease and 14,930 of accidents. The 3 leading causes of deaths.

The deaths from 80 million vaccine doses are clearly a very very small number relative to the 3 leading causes of death.

Do you still drive? That is much riskier activity than getting a vaccine.

There were 1,762 automobile fatalities in 2019. The number of serious injuries was 8917.

You better give up driving if the risk is higher than vaccines!

How is your cholesterol and heart health? Several of my neighbors, friends, class mates and relatives have dropped dead starting in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.

How many people in your community who have had cancer or died from cancer? I know many including in my own family.

Antivaxers have blown up the very small risk of vaccines in an irrational way that makes no sense relative to other risks!

[Guest]

I don't know anyone who died or who had any of the serious side effects because the number of people getting any serious side effects is very small relative to the over 80 million doses of vaccines.

However I do know of several people getting seriously ill and in some cases dieing of covid.

We know that hospitals were full of and ICUs were very full of covid patients. Over 36,000 people died in Canada from Covid.

You can read all about vaccine safety and side affects at this link:

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/

"Up to and including April 1, 2022, a total of 327 reports with an outcome of death were reported following vaccination. Although these deaths occurred after being vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine, they are not necessarily related to the vaccine. Based on the medical case review using the WHO-UMC causality assessment categories, it has been determined that:
168 reports of deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
103 reports of deaths are unlikely linked to a COVID-19 vaccine
56 reports of death are still under investigation"

How come you never talk about the 36,992 covid deaths?

That number would have been many times higher without vaccinations available.

The benefits of vaccination far outweigh the risk of vaccines!

In 2019 prior to covid. 80,361 died of cancer, 53,284 people died of heart disease and 14,930 of accidents. The 3 leading causes of deaths.

The deaths from 80 million vaccine doses are clearly a very very small number relative to the 3 leading causes of death.

Do you still drive? That is much riskier activity than getting a vaccine.

There were 1,762 automobile fatalities in 2019. The number of serious injuries was 8917.

You better give up driving if the risk is higher than vaccines!

How is your cholesterol and heart health? Several of my neighbors, friends, class mates and relatives have dropped dead starting in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.

How many people in your community who have had cancer or died from cancer? I know many including in my own family.

Antivaxers have blown up the very small risk of vaccines in an irrational way that makes no sense relative to other risks!

How would you feel or what would be your stance if your wife or child died as a result of the vaccines.

[chuckChuck]

How would you feel or what would be your stance if your wife or child died as a result of the vaccines.

What you think there Austraantivaxus?

I just showed you the risk is so small as to be almost zero and you still don't get it? DUH!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

How many people in your community who have had cancer or died from preventable human caused natural disasters?

Such as desertification, over pumping aquifers, land subsidience from over pumping ground water, polluted water, air, soil; soil erosion. All genuine issues, occuring in real time right in plain view, all preventable with existing technologies and existing political systems, and existing energy infrastructure. And all ignored in favour of fighting one single imaginary, bogey man, over which we apparently have no control, and any potential solutions require complete destruction of our entire society, industry, infrastructure and economic systems. Even preventing many forms of cancer would be cheaper, easier, and would save far more lives than this irrational crusade to demonize plant food.

Anti-sciencer's have blown up the very small risk of global warming in an irrational way that makes no sense relative to other risks!

Does this arguement sound familiar at all?

[chuckChuck]

Wrong thread A5! LOL

Show us your evidence first then we will talk!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Wrong thread A5! LOL

Show us your evidence first the we will talk!

Actually, there is a very good ( and civil, mature, with no name calling and insults) thread on this going on over on the adult forum. Why don't you come back and join? Why do you insist on only hanging out at the childrens table like this?

[chuckChuck]

First you tried to get rid of me and now you want me back? Make up your mind. LOL

No need to come back if you don't provide any credible evidence to backup your figments of your imaginations.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

First you tried to get rid of me and now you want me back? Make up your mind. LOL

No need to come back if you don't provide any credible evidence to backup your figments of your imaginations.

I never tried to get rid of you. And I recommended you be allowed back at the adult table after you made your first ever on topic post about ethanol.
Although I do admit, Commodity Marketing is a much more pleasant place in your absence.

[Guest]

What you think there Austraantivaxus?

I just showed you the risk is so small as to be almost zero and you still don't get it? DUH!

How would you feel or what would be your stance if your wife or child died as a result of the vaccines?

[Guest]

Chuck?