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    A message to Conservatives: Smarten up – serious times need serious leaders

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-a-message-to-conservatives-smarten-up-serious-times-need-serious/

    A message to Conservatives: Smarten up – serious times need serious leaders

    Andrew Coyne

    Clowntime is over.

    For much of the past decade, voters across the democratic world have indulged in the fantasy that they could elect, in essence, a bunch of clowns to lead them: demagogues, dilettantes, billionaire brick-throwers, people with no experience of or fitness for office but only a talent for distraction. Politics was not about electing serious people to make serious decisions in a dangerous world. It was about sending a message, or making a point, or sticking it to the people we don’t like. Or else it was about entertainment. It was only the government, after all. What was the worst that could happen?

    Canadians are especially given to this sort of thinking. We have, we imagine, no natural predators. We are likeable (or at least, we like us), we are rich, we are bounded by oceans on three sides, and our nearest neighbour and largest trading partner is the most powerful country on Earth. Does it really matter all that much who leads us? We’ll be all right. We’ll get by.

    The past two weeks should have dispelled that illusion. Whether we know it or not, we are at war. Those may not be our soldiers fighting in Ukraine, but they are our weapons, and it is our fight. Vladimir Putin, it can no longer be denied, represents a singular threat to the democratic world. A leader who invades a neighbour for the sole purpose of extinguishing a nascent democracy, who levels whole cities in this pursuit, and who threatens any country that intervenes to stop the carnage with nuclear annihilation – and who can do all this entirely at his own, not-necessarily-rational discretion – is a creature out of our worst nightmares.

    The stakes could not possibly be higher. And not only for the peace of the world. With Russia’s economy collapsing under the weight of international sanctions, commodity prices soaring, and inflation at 40-year highs, Canada’s economy is in highly uncertain territory. Deeply held assumptions, born of a decade or more of relative stability – that interest rates would stay low, that fiscal deficits were manageable, that in the end, we’d be all right – are now having to be revised, on the fly.

    Perhaps it will be objected that Canada is a bit player in the larger drama that is now being played out. But we are a part of NATO. Our vote matters, as does our counsel, and our example; the collective defence of all will depend upon the resolve that countries like us display, and the sacrifices we are prepared to make. We also share the Arctic Circle with Russia. We cannot assume any longer that it would not test our sovereignty in the North, as it might test our willingness to defend other countries.

    So it very much matters who leads us. It matters what their policies are, but it matters more who they are: character and judgment, experience and temperament, are suddenly at a premium. With the threat of nuclear armageddon hanging in the air, we are in need of the most surefooted possible political leadership. We need it in government. But we need it also in opposition, in the government-in-waiting.

    This Conservative leadership race, then, takes on unusual importance. Opinion will vary on the current Prime Minister’s qualities as a leader, but what is indisputable is that the opposition has a duty to provide the country with an alternative: to elect a leader who could credibly step into the job at any moment and provide as good or better leadership in a crisis.

    A great deal of time and energy will be spent in the coming campaign seeking to persuade Conservative voters of the vast ideological differences that supposedly separate the leading candidates. No doubt there are some. But frankly most of these are trivial, in the grand scheme of things. And they fade in importance in times like these.

    Given a choice between a candidate whose policies I prefer, but who lacked the requisite qualities of leadership, and a candidate deficient in policy but well supplied in character and judgment, I would unhesitatingly choose the latter. That is the choice that matters in this race: not between right and left, or Blue Tories versus Red, but between adolescence and adulthood.

    Not that there is any necessary contradiction between ideology and maturity. If anything the two are linked. If you want your party to get a hearing for its ideas, all the more reason to prefer a leader with conspicuous good judgment. I’ve said it before: the moderation that matters, the moderation that most voters look for, is not of ideology, but of tone and temperament.

    This is an especially important lesson for Conservatives to learn. Too many Conservatives make the same mistake as their most blinkered opponents – of confusing being conservative with being a jerk. Stephen Harper was certainly blessed with the ability to irritate Liberals, but in 10 years in government left precious little in the way of a lasting conservative legacy.

    What he did leave was a party that was all too prone to picking needless fights and peddling conspiracy theories – the party, or rather that section of it that is attracted to this sort of thing, that thinks the World Economic Forum is a threat to our freedom, but cheered on the lawless mob that occupied Ottawa. To subscribe to such idiocies does not prove you are a principled conservative. It merely marks you as unfit to govern.

    That is what the party will have to decide in this race: whether it wants to be a serious party with serious ambitions of governing, or a marginal party for marginal cranks. Again: this is not about ideology! A party that put forward radical proposals to raise Canada’s productivity, to restore order to our finances, to repair our bedraggled military, or to reform our dysfunctional democracy, would be offering the country a useful alternative to the Liberals. With the right salesman, it could find a market.


    The country needs a self-confident, ideas-based Conservative Party. Most of all, it needs a party led by grownups, who can persuade a nervous public they have the character and judgment to lead the country through the dark days that might lie ahead – who not only can win, but might deserve to.

    #2
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-a-message-to-conservatives-smarten-up-serious-times-need-serious/

    A message to Conservatives: Smarten up – serious times need serious leaders

    Andrew Coyne

    Clowntime is over.

    For much of the past decade, voters across the democratic world have indulged in the fantasy that they could elect, in essence, a bunch of clowns to lead them: demagogues, dilettantes, billionaire brick-throwers, people with no experience of or fitness for office but only a talent for distraction. Politics was not about electing serious people to make serious decisions in a dangerous world. It was about sending a message, or making a point, or sticking it to the people we don’t like. Or else it was about entertainment. It was only the government, after all. What was the worst that could happen?

    Canadians are especially given to this sort of thinking. We have, we imagine, no natural predators. We are likeable (or at least, we like us), we are rich, we are bounded by oceans on three sides, and our nearest neighbour and largest trading partner is the most powerful country on Earth. Does it really matter all that much who leads us? We’ll be all right. We’ll get by.

    The past two weeks should have dispelled that illusion. Whether we know it or not, we are at war. Those may not be our soldiers fighting in Ukraine, but they are our weapons, and it is our fight. Vladimir Putin, it can no longer be denied, represents a singular threat to the democratic world. A leader who invades a neighbour for the sole purpose of extinguishing a nascent democracy, who levels whole cities in this pursuit, and who threatens any country that intervenes to stop the carnage with nuclear annihilation – and who can do all this entirely at his own, not-necessarily-rational discretion – is a creature out of our worst nightmares.

    The stakes could not possibly be higher. And not only for the peace of the world. With Russia’s economy collapsing under the weight of international sanctions, commodity prices soaring, and inflation at 40-year highs, Canada’s economy is in highly uncertain territory. Deeply held assumptions, born of a decade or more of relative stability – that interest rates would stay low, that fiscal deficits were manageable, that in the end, we’d be all right – are now having to be revised, on the fly.

    Perhaps it will be objected that Canada is a bit player in the larger drama that is now being played out. But we are a part of NATO. Our vote matters, as does our counsel, and our example; the collective defence of all will depend upon the resolve that countries like us display, and the sacrifices we are prepared to make. We also share the Arctic Circle with Russia. We cannot assume any longer that it would not test our sovereignty in the North, as it might test our willingness to defend other countries.

    So it very much matters who leads us. It matters what their policies are, but it matters more who they are: character and judgment, experience and temperament, are suddenly at a premium. With the threat of nuclear armageddon hanging in the air, we are in need of the most surefooted possible political leadership. We need it in government. But we need it also in opposition, in the government-in-waiting.

    This Conservative leadership race, then, takes on unusual importance. Opinion will vary on the current Prime Minister’s qualities as a leader, but what is indisputable is that the opposition has a duty to provide the country with an alternative: to elect a leader who could credibly step into the job at any moment and provide as good or better leadership in a crisis.

    A great deal of time and energy will be spent in the coming campaign seeking to persuade Conservative voters of the vast ideological differences that supposedly separate the leading candidates. No doubt there are some. But frankly most of these are trivial, in the grand scheme of things. And they fade in importance in times like these.

    Given a choice between a candidate whose policies I prefer, but who lacked the requisite qualities of leadership, and a candidate deficient in policy but well supplied in character and judgment, I would unhesitatingly choose the latter. That is the choice that matters in this race: not between right and left, or Blue Tories versus Red, but between adolescence and adulthood.

    Not that there is any necessary contradiction between ideology and maturity. If anything the two are linked. If you want your party to get a hearing for its ideas, all the more reason to prefer a leader with conspicuous good judgment. I’ve said it before: the moderation that matters, the moderation that most voters look for, is not of ideology, but of tone and temperament.

    This is an especially important lesson for Conservatives to learn. Too many Conservatives make the same mistake as their most blinkered opponents – of confusing being conservative with being a jerk. Stephen Harper was certainly blessed with the ability to irritate Liberals, but in 10 years in government left precious little in the way of a lasting conservative legacy.

    What he did leave was a party that was all too prone to picking needless fights and peddling conspiracy theories – the party, or rather that section of it that is attracted to this sort of thing, that thinks the World Economic Forum is a threat to our freedom, but cheered on the lawless mob that occupied Ottawa. To subscribe to such idiocies does not prove you are a principled conservative. It merely marks you as unfit to govern.

    That is what the party will have to decide in this race: whether it wants to be a serious party with serious ambitions of governing, or a marginal party for marginal cranks. Again: this is not about ideology! A party that put forward radical proposals to raise Canada’s productivity, to restore order to our finances, to repair our bedraggled military, or to reform our dysfunctional democracy, would be offering the country a useful alternative to the Liberals. With the right salesman, it could find a market.


    The country needs a self-confident, ideas-based Conservative Party. Most of all, it needs a party led by grownups, who can persuade a nervous public they have the character and judgment to lead the country through the dark days that might lie ahead – who not only can win, but might deserve to.
    Do you think no one sees the WEF plan in motion? The childish Liberal conniving and manipulating days are over.

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      #3
      "Unfit to govern"

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        #4
        Really good acoustics in this chamber you've made here Chuck. The sounds really echo when there is almost only one poster who agrees with everything he himself says. Almost all posts made by the same poster.
        Must be a dream come true, finally a forum all your own, where hardly anyone dares to question your opinion.

        I really like what you have done to the place, keep up the good work. We all appreciate it.
        And to show my sincerest appreciation, I even publicly pledged to stop picking on you in commodity marketing.

        Enjoy your echo chamber. I promise to stop by occasionally to offer my support and encouragement for you to keep up the good work

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          #5
          His cut and paste makes a good point this time tho. We do need to stop electing children.

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            #6
            Andrew Coyne is no Liberal. He is a fiscal conservative and deservedly criticizes Trudeau often.

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              #7
              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
              Really good acoustics in this chamber you've made here Chuck. The sounds really echo when there is almost only one poster who agrees with everything he himself says. Almost all posts made by the same poster.
              Must be a dream come true, finally a forum all your own, where hardly anyone dares to question your opinion.

              I really like what you have done to the place, keep up the good work. We all appreciate it.
              And to show my sincerest appreciation, I even publicly pledged to stop picking on you in commodity marketing.

              Enjoy your echo chamber. I promise to stop by occasionally to offer my support and encouragement for you to keep up the good work
              Still bored? I thought you wouldn't engage with trolls? Did you finally figure out that you gave me free reign in Rural issues and that suddenly viewership and responses are creeping up?

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                #8
                Joe Bourgault, CEO of BG industries, running for Conservative leader. A French name, no doubt fluent in both....
                best of all NOT a career politician! Successful Business man.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Still bored? I thought you wouldn't engage with trolls? Did you finally figure out that you gave me free reign in Rural issues and that suddenly viewership and responses are creeping up?
                  I didn't give you anything. You've been free to post here all along. But if you want to take a credit for increased volume of posts, then you are welcome to it.

                  You already get credited with scaring off countless reasonable posters, why not add another feather to your hat.
                  Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Mar 15, 2022, 17:09.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Still bored? I thought you wouldn't engage with trolls? Did you finally figure out that you gave me free reign in Rural issues and that suddenly viewership and responses are creeping up?
                    and how in *** would you know that ?

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                      #11
                      Andrew Coyne,,, really !

                      You mean the journalist guy that is 1st cousins to Pierre Elliot Trudeau's daughter???

                      You mean that Liberal,,, who is paid to pretend to be a Conservative?

                      from Wiki;
                      Deborah Margaret Ryland Coyne (born February 24, 1955) is a Canadian constitutional lawyer, professor, and author. She is the cousin of journalist Andrew Coyne and actress Susan Coyne, and the niece of former Bank of Canada governor James Elliott Coyne.

                      She was an employee in the Prime Minister's Office of John Turner, before spending two years teaching constitutional law at the University of Toronto Law School; she has also worked for the Business Council on National Issues, the Ontario Health Service Appeal and Review Board, and the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada.

                      For years, Coyne dated former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.[2] Her daughter, Sarah Elisabeth Coyne, is Trudeau's only daughter, and was enrolled in the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

                      Coyne is a Conservative, along the same lines as Ana Navarro is a Republican. They are Media people pretending to give a point of view,,, a softened point of view, more in line with what the Media wants to hear.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by beaverdam View Post
                        Andrew Coyne,,, really !

                        You mean the journalist guy that is 1st cousins to Pierre Elliot Trudeau's daughter???

                        You mean that Liberal,,, who is paid to pretend to be a Conservative?

                        from Wiki;
                        Deborah Margaret Ryland Coyne (born February 24, 1955) is a Canadian constitutional lawyer, professor, and author. She is the cousin of journalist Andrew Coyne and actress Susan Coyne, and the niece of former Bank of Canada governor James Elliott Coyne.

                        She was an employee in the Prime Minister's Office of John Turner, before spending two years teaching constitutional law at the University of Toronto Law School; she has also worked for the Business Council on National Issues, the Ontario Health Service Appeal and Review Board, and the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada.

                        For years, Coyne dated former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.[2] Her daughter, Sarah Elisabeth Coyne, is Trudeau's only daughter, and was enrolled in the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

                        Coyne is a Conservative, along the same lines as Ana Navarro is a Republican. They are Media people pretending to give a point of view,,, a softened point of view, more in line with what the Media wants to hear.
                        Beaverdam first off I do agree that Andrew Coyne is in today’s world is a Liberal pretending to be a Conservative commentator. But using who he is related to as justification for his outlook doesn’t always work. My sister went to University and got her PhD and her political views are much different than mine. So while what house or family you were born or raised in has an influence so does your lived experience. As an example, the last 2 years of the pandemic has has quite an effect on how I view government and fellow Canadians.

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                          #13
                          Coyne is a fiscal conservative and he has some good advice. And fellow Conservative Jason Kenney is saying the same thing about the extremists and loonies that are buzzing around. Maybe the problem you wont listen to either, is that you and some of the usual suspects on Agrisilly are part of the problem?

                          "What he did leave was a party that was all too prone to picking needless fights and peddling conspiracy theories – the party, or rather that section of it that is attracted to this sort of thing, that thinks the World Economic Forum is a threat to our freedom, but cheered on the lawless mob that occupied Ottawa. To subscribe to such idiocies does not prove you are a principled conservative. It merely marks you as unfit to govern.

                          That is what the party will have to decide in this race: whether it wants to be a serious party with serious ambitions of governing, or a marginal party for marginal cranks. Again: this is not about ideology! A party that put forward radical proposals to raise Canada’s productivity, to restore order to our finances, to repair our bedraggled military, or to reform our dysfunctional democracy, would be offering the country a useful alternative to the Liberals. With the right salesman, it could find a market."
                          Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 28, 2022, 07:48.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            Coyne is a fiscal conservative and he has some good advice. And fellow Conservative Jason Kenney is saying the same thing about the extremists and loonies that are buzzing around. Maybe the problem you wont listen to either, is that you and some of the usual suspects on Agrisilly are part of the problem?

                            "What he did leave was a party that was all too prone to picking needless fights and peddling conspiracy theories – the party, or rather that section of it that is attracted to this sort of thing, that thinks the World Economic Forum is a threat to our freedom, but cheered on the lawless mob that occupied Ottawa. To subscribe to such idiocies does not prove you are a principled conservative. It merely marks you as unfit to govern.

                            That is what the party will have to decide in this race: whether it wants to be a serious party with serious ambitions of governing, or a marginal party for marginal cranks. Again: this is not about ideology! A party that put forward radical proposals to raise Canada’s productivity, to restore order to our finances, to repair our bedraggled military, or to reform our dysfunctional democracy, would be offering the country a useful alternative to the Liberals. With the right salesman, it could find a market."
                            Agreed.

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