Making ethanol from corn is the least efficient use of farmland

[furrowtickler]

Real world test, Gas F150 vrs Rivian EV truck, long Video but reslts about the 40 min mark.....

Something relevant for 98% of us here.
Nice truck but they have a very long ways to go for range in real world situations applicable to us here.
cant imagine the short range in winter here in western Canada .... 50 miles when towing ?

[furrowtickler]

Even if you have your own solar charging set up on the farm , range has to be significantly better or they are useless at this time .
Nice for running errands maybe but not remotely practical yet . New battery tech for EV’s is coming but at what cost to the consumer ?
No doubt things are going that way and for the Urban folk that travel to and from work and the grocery story it will be a good fit .
But for real life rural farms , a long way to go yet

[Guest]

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/suncor-getting-wind-solar-shift-000454066.html

the fairy tale is coming undone

[chuckChuck]

Agreed, we will need other solutions in the interim for heavy trucks and towing trailers. But the vast majority of people in Canada don't need to tow anything.

What they need is transportation to and from work and for the rest of their busy lives.

If you live in a busy overcrowded city owning your own car is not a necessity. You can take ubers, rideshares, public transport or walk. And when you need a vehicle for out of town trips you can rent.

[shtferbrains]

Agreed, we will need other solutions in the interim for heavy trucks and towing trailers. But the vast majority of people in Canada don't need to tow anything.

What they need is transportation to and from work and for the rest of their busy lives.

If you live in a busy overcrowded city owning your own car is not a necessity. You can take ubers, rideshares, public transport or walk. And when you need a vehicle for out of town trips you can rent.

There you go. That solves a lot of problems.
The working class don't need to own a car.
Very logical socialist solution to the problem of government mandates that make daily transportation unaffordable to the average person.

[chuckChuck]

There you go. That solves a lot of problems.
The working class don't need to own a car.
Very logical socialist solution to the problem of government mandates that make daily transportation unaffordable to the average person.

I didnt say that. What I said was transportation can be provided in many forms depending on needs.

Poor people can't afford cars now in big cities.

[shtferbrains]

I had not considered that part of the solution to ghg emissions was to inflate costs and take buying power away from working people.

I guess we have to realize the next 30 yrs will not be near as good for Canadians as the last 30.

We all have to do our part.
Except for the other 1/2 of the world who are continuing to grow their economies.

[furrowtickler]

I had not considered that part of the solution to ghg emissions was to inflate costs and take buying power away from working people.

I guess we have to realize the next 30 yrs will not be near as good for Canadians as the last 30.

We all have to do our part.
Except for the other 1/2 of the world who are continuing to grow their economies.

You will own nothing and be happy

[Landdownunder]

honest question;
Can solar panels be shut off ?
Or does that excess power have to be sent somewhere ??

No expert but I belive not.

Some guys with massive big systems all was sweet until charges for putting excess back into grid. And if wasn’t for initial govt subsidies would be out of pocket but took the free m9ney.

Other guys have had solar for 20 plus year need new system sorry buddy no free ride now you had that 20 yrs ago full tote odds please can’t double dip. But think that Varys state to state.

Life gioes on with or without solar.

[Guest]

Oh my
That’s a big problem !
No wonder CC never answered

[chuckChuck]

Having too much electricity from renewables is a good problem to have, because electrification of everything is going to require a whole lot more electricity.

The biggest issue is it makes fossil fuel plants uneconomic because the surplus electricity is so cheap.

We will certainly find a way to use it or store it.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Having too much electricity from renewables is a good problem to have, because electrification of everything is going to require a whole lot more electricity.

The biggest issue is it makes fossil fuel plants uneconomic because the surplus electricity is so cheap.

We will certainly find a way to use it or store it.

It is almost as if you just ignore every single discussion we have ever had on this topic, and just revert back to your original position.

What is the point of having a discussion, if you never retain anything, or learn anything?