Making ethanol from corn is the least efficient use of farmland

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Hamloc you need to look at the countries and regions where renewable electricity is having a big impact including Alberta, Canada, the UK, and Denmark. Hydro is considered renewable. But your own oil rich province is making great investments in wind and solar. Shocking isn't it?

Obviously the Alberta businesses involved must be bad at math and economics otherwise they wouldn't invest right! LOL

Please refer to shtfrbrains post making fun of your only arguement in favour of renewables:

I don't understand your arguments here Chuck?
Why would these companies build all these plants if it wasn't the right thing to do?
Would Scott Moe or Jason Kenny approve them if they wern't good for everyone.
Fuel from food crops is good for the environment.
California is going to have most Fosil Fuels eliminated buy 2030.
They can't be wrong. It's all been studied or they wouldn't be doing it.

Those 2030 and 2050 targets must be met or we all melt.
We all have to do our part.
You shouldn't be questioning the mandates.
They have been approved.

Don't be trying to make logical arguments. Your not an environmental scientist.

Do you just really enjoy being a hypocrit, or is just a prerequisite for the job?

[chuckChuck]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/technology/article-lg-energy-solution-to-set-up-ev-battery-joint-venture-with-stellantis/

LG Energy Solution to set up EV battery joint venture with Stellantis in Canada

Heekyong Yang and Joyce Lee
Seoul
Reuters
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South Korean battery giant LG Energy Solution Ltd (LGES) said on Wednesday it plans to invest $1.5-billion to set up a joint venture with Stellantis NV STLA-N +1.17%increase
in Canada.

LGES owns 51 per cent of the joint venture, tentatively named “LGES-STLA JV” and Stellantis owns 49 per cent, LGES said in a regulatory filing.

In October, LGES and Stellantis NV struck an electric vehicle (EV) battery production joint venture, targeting to start production by the first quarter of 2024 and aiming to have an annual production capacity of 40 gigawatt hours of batteries.

In a separate regulatory filing, LGES said it plans to acquire a stake worth $542-million in ES America to respond to demand from EV startups in the United States.

LGES is considering building a factory in Arizona to meet demand in the United States, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters, adding that the plant is expected to primarily produce cylindrical battery cells. LGES has its own factory in Michigan and two battery joint ventures with General Motors Co in Ohio and Tennessee.

“We are considering a new production site, but nothing has been decided yet,” said a spokesperson at LGES.

LGES, which counts Tesla Inc, GM and Volkswagen AG among its customers, currently has battery production sites in the United States, China, Poland, Indonesia and South Korea.

[chuckChuck]

LG Energy Solution to set up EV battery joint venture with Stellantis in Canada

Apparently the biggest single auto industry investment in Canada's history.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Nope not yet. Prices will come down and choices will go up.

How can you ignore all reality, and our previous conversation and just degrade back to your false claims.that prices will get cheaper? Lithium is up 500% in the last year. Tesla is increasing prices. Shortages of all components and materials. Every other material and labour and freight involved with the EV is going up. Electricity prices are going up, the free ride on road tax costs are coming to an end, the tax incentives are running out. There is no breakthrough technology to make the EV cost competitive.

In fact, using the excuse that you are waiting for prices to come down in the middle of rampant inflation and all of the factors listed above, it's probably one of the smartest strategies you have taken. You can use that excuse for a long time to come

[chuckChuck]

But high oil prices don't cause inflation? LOL

Yes inflation, energy shortages and material shortages will affect everyone and everything. But unless you have a crystal ball you wont be able to predict the future any better than I.

As an Albertan should know that commodities like oil in the last decades went from covid lows to war highs in the matter of months based on supply and demand.

Good luck predicting what will happen in the next few months, let alone years and decades.

But one thing we know is there is a worldwide effort to reduce carbon emissions and electric vehicles will be part of the change.

[Hamloc]

But high oil prices don't cause inflation? LOL

Yes inflation, energy shortages and material shortages will affect everyone and everything. But unless you have a crystal ball you wont be able to predict the future any better than I.

As an Albertan should know that commodities like oil in the last decades went from covid lows to war highs in the matter of months based on supply and demand.

Good luck predicting what will happen in the next few months, let alone years and decades.

But one thing we know is there is a worldwide effort to reduce carbon emissions and electric vehicles will be part of the change.

Chuck2 read my post in “Trudeau addresses delegates in Belgium”, a post I intended as a new thread. It is a good response to your above post.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Even more good news for chuck. Looks like he can wait for the price of EV's to go down for a long time yet. Virtually every input into the batteries is going up.

But don't let that stop you from lecturing us about the declining cost of electric vehicles and battery storage.

[fjlip]

CO 2 emissions need NOT go down, the more the GREENER, plants, not the greener evil agenda.

Ya today, BORROW more $$$ lieberal bastards! Ruin our country, SOB's!

[WiltonRanch]

Probably better off to buy a hatchback with a rice burner engine and a set of tire chains than an EV now or maybe ever. Looked at an EV Polaris ranger. Right now it’s $4000 more than a gas engine. I really thought that’s where I could incorporate an EV and have the added benefit of being able to sneak through the cows and catch those pesky angus blood calves to tag. However, $4000 extra is still a lot of gasoline even at $2/l. Our 2016 I doubt has burned a 1/5 of that.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Even more good news Chuck.
Climate change is no longer the lowest priority for US voters.
It is now beat out by Covid and Race/Ethnicity issues.
Wait a minute, aren't those your other favourite topics? It seems you aren't getting much traction.

Three of the four "converging crises" Biden said he would tackle in his "Day One" executive orders are now at the very bottom of the list of voter priorities in this Pew poll