Making ethanol from corn is the least efficient use of farmland

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Coal went from about $50 tonne pre pandemic to over $200. Prices never seen before.
Lots of new demand from the 1/2 of the world that is expanding their economies.
More new coal power plants being built every day.
Won't see much about it on Justin's Cheerleaders Broadcasters

We are the Winners!

Stay enthusiastic there Chuck!

We are winners in so many ways right now.
Thanks to our abundant hydro, we we aren't nearly as reliant as most of the rest of the world is on increasingly expensive fossil fuels in an era when they are likely to be in short supply for a long time to come.
But hydropower is really difficult to export across oceans, as is every other supposed green energy.
But we also happen to be blessed with some of the world's largest reserves of coal, oil and natural gas which are really easy to export all over the world. As demand just continues to increase, and as green energy continues to fail spectacularly all over the world.

Sometime in the near future, reality will prevail, and some portion of what used to be Canada will take advantage of our position to fill the export needs.

And even better yet, uranium is even easier to export and will see a surge in demand which we are well suited to fill.

And Chuck will keep enthusiastically cheerleading his renewable energy dream. Even as it collapses all around him in real time.
Win, win, win.

[chuckChuck]

In Alberta renewables are growing at the fastest rate in Canada with several large scale installations. So that kind of growth signals the opposite of collapse don't you think?

And I admit that renewables won't cover all our electricity needs and that's why hydro is such a good fit for much of Canada. We will fill the gaps with something else.

But keep hanging on to the fallacy that renewables can't be part of the solution to lower carbon electricity.

Here is what the International Energy Agency says about the "collapse" of renewables. But of course a farmer in Alberta knows "everything everywhere" more about the world energy system than the IEA! LOL

So where is this collapse you speak of A5? Is it like the world is going to run out of carbon dioxide idea you came up with? A figment of your imagination?

https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/5ae32253-7409-4f9a-a91d-1493ffb9777a/Renewables2021-Analysisandforecastto2026.pdf

Renewables
2021
Analysis and forecast to 2026

Additions of renewable power capacity are on track to set yet another annual
record in 2021, driven by solar PV. Almost 290 gigawatts (GW) of new
renewable power will be commissioned this year, which is 3% higher than 2020’s
already exceptional growth. Solar PV alone accounts for more than half of all
renewable power expansion in 2021, followed by wind and hydropower.
The growth of renewable capacity is forecast to accelerate in the next five
years, accounting for almost 95% of the increase in global power capacity
through 2026. We have revised up our forecast from a year earlier, as stronger
policy support and ambitious climate targets announced for COP26 outweigh the
current record commodity prices that have increased the costs of building new
wind and solar PV installations. Globally, renewable electricity capacity is forecast
to increase by over 60% between 2020 and 2026, reaching more than 4 800 GW.
This is equivalent to the current global power capacity of fossil fuels and nuclear
combined. Overall, China remains the leader over the next five years, accounting
for 43% of global renewable capacity growth, followed by Europe, the United
States and India. These four markets alone account for 80% of renewable capacity
expansion worldwide.

[furrowtickler]

Real world test, Gas F150 vrs Rivian EV truck, long Video but reslts about the 40 min mark.....

[furrowtickler]

Real world test, Gas F150 vrs Rivian EV truck, long Video but reslts about the 40 min mark.....

Something relevant for 98% of us here.
Nice truck but they have a very long ways to go for range in real world situations applicable to us here.
cant imagine the short range in winter here in western Canada .... 50 miles when towing ?

[furrowtickler]

Even if you have your own solar charging set up on the farm , range has to be significantly better or they are useless at this time .
Nice for running errands maybe but not remotely practical yet . New battery tech for EV’s is coming but at what cost to the consumer ?
No doubt things are going that way and for the Urban folk that travel to and from work and the grocery story it will be a good fit .
But for real life rural farms , a long way to go yet

[Guest]

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/suncor-getting-wind-solar-shift-000454066.html

the fairy tale is coming undone

[chuckChuck]

Agreed, we will need other solutions in the interim for heavy trucks and towing trailers. But the vast majority of people in Canada don't need to tow anything.

What they need is transportation to and from work and for the rest of their busy lives.

If you live in a busy overcrowded city owning your own car is not a necessity. You can take ubers, rideshares, public transport or walk. And when you need a vehicle for out of town trips you can rent.

[shtferbrains]

Agreed, we will need other solutions in the interim for heavy trucks and towing trailers. But the vast majority of people in Canada don't need to tow anything.

What they need is transportation to and from work and for the rest of their busy lives.

If you live in a busy overcrowded city owning your own car is not a necessity. You can take ubers, rideshares, public transport or walk. And when you need a vehicle for out of town trips you can rent.

There you go. That solves a lot of problems.
The working class don't need to own a car.
Very logical socialist solution to the problem of government mandates that make daily transportation unaffordable to the average person.

[chuckChuck]

There you go. That solves a lot of problems.
The working class don't need to own a car.
Very logical socialist solution to the problem of government mandates that make daily transportation unaffordable to the average person.

I didnt say that. What I said was transportation can be provided in many forms depending on needs.

Poor people can't afford cars now in big cities.

[shtferbrains]

I had not considered that part of the solution to ghg emissions was to inflate costs and take buying power away from working people.

I guess we have to realize the next 30 yrs will not be near as good for Canadians as the last 30.

We all have to do our part.
Except for the other 1/2 of the world who are continuing to grow their economies.

[furrowtickler]

I had not considered that part of the solution to ghg emissions was to inflate costs and take buying power away from working people.

I guess we have to realize the next 30 yrs will not be near as good for Canadians as the last 30.

We all have to do our part.
Except for the other 1/2 of the world who are continuing to grow their economies.

You will own nothing and be happy

[Landdownunder]

honest question;
Can solar panels be shut off ?
Or does that excess power have to be sent somewhere ??

No expert but I belive not.

Some guys with massive big systems all was sweet until charges for putting excess back into grid. And if wasn’t for initial govt subsidies would be out of pocket but took the free m9ney.

Other guys have had solar for 20 plus year need new system sorry buddy no free ride now you had that 20 yrs ago full tote odds please can’t double dip. But think that Varys state to state.

Life gioes on with or without solar.

[Guest]

Oh my
That’s a big problem !
No wonder CC never answered

[chuckChuck]

Having too much electricity from renewables is a good problem to have, because electrification of everything is going to require a whole lot more electricity.

The biggest issue is it makes fossil fuel plants uneconomic because the surplus electricity is so cheap.

We will certainly find a way to use it or store it.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Having too much electricity from renewables is a good problem to have, because electrification of everything is going to require a whole lot more electricity.

The biggest issue is it makes fossil fuel plants uneconomic because the surplus electricity is so cheap.

We will certainly find a way to use it or store it.

It is almost as if you just ignore every single discussion we have ever had on this topic, and just revert back to your original position.

What is the point of having a discussion, if you never retain anything, or learn anything?