'I don't need this job': Kenney says he has to stay to keep 'lunatics' from 'trying t

[chuckChuck]

Kenney is so low in the polls that almost anyone running would do better. Can Jean beat Notley? Probably not if the UCP blows itself up. LOL

But its going to be the best Alberta summer ever. Again.

But you say nothing about the extremists Kenney is talking about? On Agrisilly, denial and silence about rightwing extremists and white supremacist who are attracted to the UCP "light" is the norm. In some cases there is even sympathy and muted support

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck2 are you perhaps a member of the NDP Socialist Caucus? A left wing group inside the NDP which believes that the NDP has moved to far to the right?

That is the best joke I've heard all week. I'm trying to visualize it. Can anyone draw a diagram of how that shift would look? I didn't know you could go further left than infinitely left. This is the equivalent of Buzz lightyear saying "To infnity and beyond".

[chuckChuck]

So A5 how come you don't want to talk about what Kenny said about some members of the UCP?

You seem to spend a lot of time worrying about me when the whole point is to discuss the subject of the thread. I am not the subject. LOL

[WiltonRanch]

Chuck2 are you perhaps a member of the NDP Socialist Caucus? A left wing group inside the NDP which believes that the NDP has moved to far to the right?

Leger Marketing conducted a poll March 18-20 that found Brian Jean would do better against Rachel Notley than Jason Kenney in a provincial election. Puts a bit of a hole in Kenney’s narrative!

Years ago a prominent old ndp mouthpiece and her cohorts tried to establish a paty further left than the Romanow ndp. For obvious reasons it didn’t attract wide support nor could they agree on much. Even ndp members called it a reinvention of the communist party. Fast forward these nutty ideas are ndp policy. After Calvert was sent back to his burrow the party has taken quite a shift as the lunatics are what’s left. The middle road ndp’s have left the party. Conservative and liberal based parties should take note as this can happen if you let lunatics run the show. You lose your middle voters. I love Facebook as I have friends of all political stripes. I read a lot of the crap they post and share as I don’t like to live in an echo chamber. What I find glaringly obvious is the lunatics on the wings are so similar in the fact they’re lunatics. Plain and simple. No point arguing with a lunatic as you’ll never change their mind. You might disprove them and make them look dumb but they don’t see it. I like to get along with people but I also like my point known. I know them personally and know why they are the way they are. On a forum such as this one though we don’t know who is actually who and who is a paid shill or some nut still angry about cwb or the land bank being ended. So in essence here it is a battle of sorts to keep lunatics from taking over.

[chuckChuck]

Wilton on Agrisilly several posters call everyone and everything they disagree with as communists and communism.

Republicans consider many Conservative policies in Canada socialism. Especially single payer healthcare that provides universal care whether rich or poor.

Conservatives like Andrew Scheer ran on a campaign for support for supply managed industries of dairy and poultry which require state control and regulation to work. In other words socialism for farmers.

Conservatives support government income support programs for retirees and seniors such as CPP, OAS and GIS along with other social program transfers to the Provinces.

Many Conservatives wanted more support payments for businesses and individuals during the covid lockdowns. Conservative premiers were asking for more federal support.

Farmers and other businesses receive government subsidies and some right here on Agrisilly complain like hell because they don't get enough and want more.

So who are you calling left wing socialists? Because many conservatives seem to be will full recipients on the socialist gravy train.

So all the partisan accusations seem more than a bit hollow and hypocritical.

But you have little to say about the tiki torch bearing yahoos on the fringes of the conservative movement who hold racists and bigoted views? It's like they don't exist. But they most certainly do and deeply damage the conservative brand.

That's what Kenney is talking about.

[WiltonRanch]

Wilton on Agrisilly several posters call everyone and everything they disagree with as communists and communism.

Republicans consider many Conservative policies in Canada socialism. Especially single payer healthcare that provides universal care whether rich or poor.

Conservatives like Andrew Scheer ran on a campaign for support for supply managed industries of dairy and poultry which require state control and regulation to work. In other words socialism for farmers.

Conservatives support government income support programs for retirees and seniors such as CPP, OAS and GIS along with other social program transfers to the Provinces.

Many Conservatives wanted more support payments for businesses and individuals during the covid lockdowns. Conservative premiers were asking for more federal support.

Farmers and other businesses receive government subsidies and some right here on Agrisilly complain like hell because they don't get enough and want more.

So who are you calling left wing socialists? Because many conservatives seem to be will full recipients on the socialist gravy train.

So all the partisan accusations seem more than a bit hollow and hypocritical.

But you have little to say about the tiki torch bearing yahoos on the fringes of the conservative movement who hold racists and bigoted views? It's like they don't exist. But they most certainly do and deeply damage the conservative brand.

That's what Kenney is talking about.

I think my point flew over your head.

[chuckChuck]

Nice try Wilton but your deflection is just to avoid discussing the hypocrisy so evident in conservative ranks. LOL

[Hamloc]

Chuck2 if as you say Kenney is talking about the extreme right members of the party I would say they constitute a very small percentage of the membership, maybe 1-2%, really I have no idea. But a small fringe element isn’t going to be able to run the party or take it over. This is simply fear mongering and political postering being done by Kenney to try and keep his job. He knows if he resigns or is forced out his future political ambitions are gone and I believe he wants to continue being a politician!!

[chuckChuck]

Chuck2 if as you say Kenney is talking about the extreme right members of the party I would say they constitute a very small percentage of the membership, maybe 1-2%, really I have no idea. But a small fringe element isn’t going to be able to run the party or take it over. This is simply fear mongering and political postering being done by Kenney to try and keep his job. He knows if he resigns or is forced out his future political ambitions are gone and I believe he wants to continue being a politician!!

Maybe true but the conspiracy theories like the WEF and Soros are running Canada, run deep into the party with some MPs spouting this stupidity. Along with many posters on Agrisilly. Michelle Remple says as a much.

And the anti science anti vax wing of the Conservatives is very large. Along with the social conservatives who want to tell you how to live your life.

And then there is the Q Anon stupidity. Another level.

But you still haven't addressed the blantant hypocrisy of conservatives condemning socialism but then supporting it??

[WiltonRanch]

Nice try Wilton but your deflection is just to avoid discussing the hypocrisy so evident in conservative ranks. LOL

Holy shit you are so blind with rage and hate you missed my point completely. I fricken agreed with there being lunatics in the ucp as well as your beloved ndp. Oh sorry I just made an assumption. See how easy it is to jump to conclusions. Grow a brain

[chuckChuck]

Holy shit you are so blind with rage and hate you missed my point completely. I fricken agreed with there being lunatics in the ucp as well as your beloved ndp. Oh sorry I just made an assumption. See how easy it is to jump to conclusions. Grow a brain

This what I was getting at. But you still haven't addressed the blantant hypocrisy of conservatives condemning socialism but then supporting it??

And the far right fascist and bigots on the fringes of the conservatives are far more dangerous than any other fringe group.

[ajl]

After April 9 Kenney can go and work directly for the WEF. They have a war in the Ukraine to run so will be needing his help. I fear that the recent rule voting rule changes are to make it easier for the ndp to keep Kenney at the helm of the UCP. I am one of those 'lunatic' far right in that I am both fiscally and socially conservative who voted UCP in 2019. Life begins at conception and continues to natural death and we need to celebrate this fact. You really have to follow the science.

[Hamloc]

This what I was getting at. But you still haven't addressed the blantant hypocrisy of conservatives condemning socialism but then supporting it??

And the far right fascist and bigots on the fringes of the conservatives are farm more dangerous than any other fringe group.

Chuck2, read in the National Post Feb. 19,2022: Barbara Kay: Trudeau’s hypocrisy regarding foreign funding should be evident to all. I thinks hypocrisy and politics go hand in hand..

Personally I think the NDP’s Socialist Caucus is just as dangerous.

[WiltonRanch]

This what I was getting at. But you still haven't addressed the blantant hypocrisy of conservatives condemning socialism but then supporting it??

And the far right fascist and bigots on the fringes of the conservatives are farm more dangerous than any other fringe group.

Sure it is hypocritical I will agree. So is socialists wanting government funded programs but against resource extraction and for stifling government regulations. I do agree there is enough nuts in the ucp. I think we agree but it’s definitely not exclusive to the conservatives. My bias is conservative but realize the nuts make us look radical. If you with your political leanings can thrash the conservatives but not acknowledge your camp has its lunatics too then it makes you look hypocritical. Sad thing today with polarization of politics is whatever political leanings we have we subconsciously condone the lunatics in our camp. So we all look like hypocrites.

[shtferbrains]

You don't have to go to the fringe on the left.
There is widespread belief that economic growth means the end of the world. Or put another way if we can stop economic growth the world will become a better place for a larger portion of the inhabitants.

Seems to be basic playbook for our current leadership.