My Covid Experience

[blackpowder]

"So what's more important?"


Truth, honor, courage and common sense.

[WiltonRanch]

So what's more important?

The inconvenience and the disruptions of covid measures for the majority of the population during the various waves?

Or the risk of larger disruptions, many more covid cases, deaths and a collapse of our health care system?

The vast majority of people got vaccinated. And followed the rules and agreed with the covid measures.

So there is your answer as to what a large majority of people thought was more important.

Think we agree here but I think you are grandstanding here to look like you’re more right than me. Narcissistic qualities? Even when we can agree on things and you still have to take the upper hand. Hard not to pigeon hole you as a kook.

[Guest]

So what's more important?

The inconvenience and the disruptions of covid measures for the majority of the population during the various waves?

Or the risk of larger disruptions, many more covid cases, deaths and a collapse of our health care system?

The vast majority of people got vaccinated. And followed the rules and agreed with the covid measures.

So there is your answer as to what a large majority of people thought was more important.

The vast majority conformed and got the experimental drug to comply with mandates or lose their jobs.
As for me I'll see your fear porn and raise you a natural healthy immune system. How would you feel or what would be your stance if your wife or child died as a result of the vaccines?

[sumdumguy]

Maybe there is some partisan nonsense. I think we are both guilty for sure. Maybe I was wrong resting the blame solely on the feds for lockdowns. Got me there but you and I both agree Covid and restrictions came at the expense of our medical system being able to address other medical needs properly, the mental well being of those affected by isolation, job loss, etc. A lot us were/are pissed off, tired, with this whole deal. Thought by getting vaxxed and doing our part we’d be getting back to normal, and we are finally. Still I resent Trudeau and his daily Covid updates or the constant media barrage. It was well intentioned propaganda and I just can’t even fathom the bs people in totalitarian regimes must be fed and the gaslighting they get.

The unvaxxed still can not fly or takes a train in Canada nor the US. Who do you blame for that? Am I wrong? Did I miss something?

[WiltonRanch]

The unvaxxed still can not fly or takes a train in Canada nor the US. Who do you blame for that? Am I wrong? Did I miss something?

Feds obviously.

[chuckChuck]

"So what's more important?"


Truth, honor, courage and common sense.

Truth and common sense? Haven't seen much of it on Agrisilly when it comes to covid.

You should suggest to your fellow posters that they pay attention to credible science and evidence instead of the antivax hucksters conspiracy freaks on social media.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

"So what's more important?"


Truth, honor, courage and common sense.

Yes.
Truth, if governments had been honest from the start, especially China's government who lied and tried everything possible to hide the truth; then we might have prevented this from becoming a worldwide phenomenon.

Honor, If we honoured our elderly, and those in highest risk, we could have done everything possible to protect them from the very beginning, and kept Covid out of nursing homes etc where the toll was the worst. Instead, the management of these facilities was almost criminally negligent in many places.

Courage, If human, collectively, had the courage to accept the actual risks, and realize that as a healthy young individual, the courageous thing to do was to do our duty, and be productive citizens, in spite of the negligibily small risk of death from covid. The risk of societal collapse from our supply chains and infrastructure collapsing could have been avoided.

Common sense, if more of us had common sense, then none of these mandates and government imposed regulations on our lives would have been necessary. They could have informed us that there is a deadly(to certain age groups), highly virulent virus with no known effective treatments. Anyone with common sense would have acted appropriately. Instead ,the world is full of Karen's and Chucks's who are paralyzed with fear and need the government to hold their hand and make all decisions for them. These are the folks who need the government to specifically tell them not to lick door knobs in public washrooms during a pandemic.

[cropgrower]

100% agree AF5

[chuckChuck]

Yes.
Truth, if governments had been honest from the start, especially China's government who lied and tried everything possible to hide the truth; then we might have prevented this from becoming a worldwide phenomenon.

Honor, If we honoured our elderly, and those in highest risk, we could have done everything possible to protect them from the very beginning, and kept Covid out of nursing homes etc where the toll was the worst. Instead, the management of these facilities was almost criminally negligent in many places.

Courage, If human, collectively, had the courage to accept the actual risks, and realize that as a healthy young individual, the courageous thing to do was to do our duty, and be productive citizens, in spite of the negligibily small risk of death from covid. The risk of societal collapse from our supply chains and infrastructure collapsing could have been avoided.

Common sense, if more of us had common sense, then none of these mandates and government imposed regulations on our lives would have been necessary. They could have informed us that there is a deadly(to certain age groups), highly virulent virus with no known effective treatments. Anyone with common sense would have acted appropriately. Instead ,the world is full of Karen's and Chucks's who are paralyzed with fear and need the government to hold their hand and make all decisions for them. These are the folks who need the government to specifically tell them not to lick door knobs in public washrooms during a pandemic.

Common sense and good judgement would suggest that everyone should get vaccinated except the very small number of people who are known to react severely to vaccines which is what public health authorities have suggested is the best way to avoid covid and spreading covid and reduce the likelyhood of getting seriously ill.

Instead we still have the antivax and anti science crowd who cant do math.

So unfortunately expecting all people to do the right thing in a public health crisis and pandemic does not work.

Only a libertarian fool would suggest that we leave pandemic and healthcare management up to individuals to manage.

[cropgrower]

. yes keep taking your jabs , working great over 90% of deaths jabbed ! just as lots of doctors that got silenced said would happen

[chuckChuck]

Where is the reference or link because we need to see the whole report or study to put it into context.

And the majority of people who have died and are still dieing are the elderly. And as vaccines wear off they need boosters which is what is recommended right now.

And even with boosters the vulnerable elderly with weakened immune systems will still die in some cases even if they are vaccinated.

Just like the influenza vaccines which are given every flu season to the elderly to reduce spread, infection and severe disease. They modify the various vaccines in response to what the flu types were in the southern hemisphere.

[fjlip]

Some days I swear you’re on the spectrum. You don’t have a fricken clue about the nuances do you?

It's the VAX effects... ruins rational thought.

[chuckChuck]

It's the VAX effects... ruins rational thought.

Fjlip and rational though are an oxy - moron! LOL

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, try reading other posts before you respond so you don't look like an idiot every time.
I said IF we had common sense. We don't collectively. If you need any evidence of the lack of common Sense amongst a certain segment of the population, just read the posts this morning. You have made 10 covid posts already.
After reading through your input this morning, anyone can conclude that common sense is already dead. But insults are alive and well.

It is because of people like you that governments found it necessary to implement strict controls on people's lives. Not because of the people with common sense.

[sumdumguy]

It looks like Borys’s country is the only country allowed to freely test, dissect and report data. Borys is also outstanding with his aid to the Ukraine. He doesn’t stand there and pontificate about freedom and aid to calamities like our happy socks, then do SFA. Just sayin and comparing leadership. Verbal diarrhea doesn’t signify good leadership in my world.