U.S. Supreme Court leak; Roe v. Wade overturned

[jazz]

Watching the whacko left crying and wailing and protesting and demanding to kill babies whenever they want for any reason they want is just amazing to be hold.

They are they best anti abortion ad running.

After covid, its clear that at least 30% of the population is mentally unhinged.

I imagine they will be priming up Antifa clowns and aborted Black Lives Dont Matter to start the protests and the burning again.

[chuckChuck]

So pro choice Polly is advocating killing babies for any reason? Really Jazz?

[foragefarmer]

The Social Conservative males, so vocal on controlling a women choice on having an unwanted and uncared for fetus, and with the next breath demanding government cut funding and spending to social programs that help the unwanted and uncared for living child.

[Sheepwheat]

The Social Conservative males, so vocal on controlling a women choice on having an unwanted and uncared for fetus, and with the next breath demanding government cut funding and spending to social programs that help the unwanted and uncared for living child.

Huh? Who wants to cut care for kids allowed to be born?

And what about the social conservative females?

[Sheepwheat]

So pro choice Polly is advocating killing babies for any reason? Really Jazz?

No. He simply knows that unfortunately in Canada, we are a brutal society that kills its unborn with no restrictions, kind of like China or North Korea. And to try to change things is sadly political suicide. That’s how messed up our society is.

[jazz]

The Social Conservative males, so vocal on controlling a women choice on having an unwanted and uncared for fetus, and with the next breath demanding government cut funding and spending to social programs that help the unwanted and uncared for living child.

Sort of like covid eh. No questions. Just trust the science.

75M babies aborted every year and you start using gender as a shield to asking any sort of question about anything. Thats so weak.

Several states are trying to pass post birth abortion legislation. So glad the USSC stopped this insanity.

If women are so empowered then get down to your doctor and get some birth control or tie your tubes or whatever. Dont make a baby pay for your stupidity masking as choice. And yes the male partner absolutely has a say in this because because by the courts, he is designated as provider financially for a living child, then he has a rights during an abortion as well.

There is more of a fuss made against cutting old growth forest or baby seals than ending babies lives. Just sick.

[WiltonRanch]

Damnit I shouldn’t even comment on this topic but I can’t resist. I am pro choice but I hate the thoughts of pulling a viable child from its mother’s womb. However, I am a man and in this whole scenario my contribution to the pregnancy is the pleasure of doing the deed. I can run away and not have any responsibility for my pleasure if I so choose. The woman is saddled with it for the rest of her life no matter what decision she chooses. You can judge and chastise two consenting people or in many cases only one consenting person should be careful, premarital sex is wrong, blah blah. People will screw around and it has been this way forever, religion or no religion. So for a man from his pulpit or personal feelings to argue against not just the moralities but legalities of abortion or even birth control is obtuse and going down a path where we all stand to lose civil liberties pertaining to other matters involving personal body choice.

What is also interesting with Roe v Wade is that the ruling was more than abortion but about personal body freedoms which extended to sexual liberties and paved the way to legalizing homosexuality and gay marriage. Personal opinions aside here, striking down this ruling could give the likes of Alabama the right to strike down gay marriage among other things. The hard core bible punchers are probably getting a hard on thinking about that right now but spin this around to think about mandatory vaccinations or sacrificing yourself to the “greater good” of the nation through experimentation against your own personal choice. Only way government at present could make you get your Covid vax is to take away your right to cross borders or get into restaurants etc. Now with this ruling struck down the government theoretically could mandate mandatory vaccinations or you’re locked up say. Very much hypothetical but plausible. So on one hand you stop abortion and maybe you stop gays from dancing around and being happy but you get locked up when you want to exercise your body autonomy by not getting vaccinated. It’s a double edged sword here.

[Sheepwheat]

Damnit I shouldn’t even comment on this topic but I can’t resist. I am pro choice but I hate the thoughts of pulling a viable child from its mother’s womb. However, I am a man and in this whole scenario my contribution to the pregnancy is the pleasure of doing the deed. I can run away and not have any responsibility for my pleasure if I so choose. The woman is saddled with it for the rest of her life no matter what decision she chooses. You can judge and chastise two consenting people or in many cases only one consenting person should be careful, premarital sex is wrong, blah blah. People will screw around and it has been this way forever, religion or no religion. So for a man from his pulpit or personal feelings to argue against not just the moralities but legalities of abortion or even birth control is obtuse and going down a path where we all stand to lose civil liberties pertaining to other matters involving personal body choice.

What is also interesting with Roe v Wade is that the ruling was more than abortion but about personal body freedoms which extended to sexual liberties and paved the way to legalizing homosexuality and gay marriage. Personal opinions aside here, striking down this ruling could give the likes of Alabama the right to strike down gay marriage among other things. The hard core bible punchers are probably getting a hard on thinking about that right now but spin this around to think about mandatory vaccinations or sacrificing yourself to the “greater good” of the nation through experimentation against your own personal choice. Only way government at present could make you get your Covid vax is to take away your right to cross borders or get into restaurants etc. Now with this ruling struck down the government theoretically could mandate mandatory vaccinations or you’re locked up say. Very much hypothetical but plausible. So on one hand you stop abortion and maybe you stop gays from dancing around and being happy but you get locked up when you want to exercise your body autonomy by not getting vaccinated. It’s a double edged sword here.

Hey. We’re in Canada. You don’t have to worry a bit. Our evil and immoral society will keep on keeping on as it has and does forever and beyond. Us terrible “religious” people will stay just that. Ostracized as idiots by the prevailing will of society.

Which brings me to this point. The majority, if it holds a specific viewpoint is certainly not necessarily right.

In this case, the issue could not be more clear. A child is killed because it messes with the plans and dreams of the selfish. A person is killed. It’s not disputable. Is it?

[WiltonRanch]

Hey. We’re in Canada. You don’t have to worry a bit. Our evil and immoral society will keep on keeping on as it has and does forever and beyond. Us terrible “religious” people will stay just that. Ostracized as idiots by the prevailing will of society.

Which brings me to this point. The majority, if it holds a specific viewpoint is certainly not necessarily right.

In this case, the issue could not be more clear. A child is killed because it messes with the plans and dreams of the selfish. A person is killed. It’s not disputable. Is it?

Are you implying religious morality has more precedence than democratic will? Don’t go there.

[Sheepwheat]

Are you implying religious morality has more precedence than democratic will? Don’t go there.

Killing humans has nothing do do with “religion” does it? If so, you too are “religious”. Unless you are pro murder?

I am very anti abortion. That doesn’t mean I get to run for office, and touch the issue with a ten foot pole, if the majority of society is depraved of moral values. Values which you don’t need “religion” to even have. Harper, Manning, and others did not touch it, because sadly it would be political suicide.

Now. The answer to my question? Is abortion killing a human, yes or no?

Is murder only wrong if you are a “religious nut job” like myself? Or is murder generally wrong?

Funny how the left can impose things on the right, but not the other way around, btw. The wheat board, climate cultism, gay “marriage”, abortion. But if a conservative has views or wishes to try to change things morally, it’s oh, so wrong.