Trump 'lit the flame,' Republican says as U.S. Capitol attack hearings open

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I don't think Canada's problem is election integrity. It seems to be voter integrity, or lack thereof.
Voters who are more than willing to continue to elect a government after they have repeatedly and unabashedly shown their blatant disregard for ethics and legality.

[checking]

I believe sheepwheat would have to admit that the republicans were offered an equal number of seats on the Jan 6 committee, and the minority leader refused to appoint non conflicted members to represent it. I fail to see how any party could now complain.

[chuckChuck]

I don't think Canada's problem is election integrity. It seems to be voter integrity, or lack thereof.
Voters who are more than willing to continue to elect a government after they have repeatedly and unabashedly shown their blatant disregard for ethics and legality.

What happened after Trump lost, was far worse than any thing that has ever happened in Canada.

And the Republicans who still back Trump have a much more serious disregard for ethics or legality.

Just about every government has some ethical issues. Harper, Kenney, Moe, Ford and Trudeau all have had ethical issues, some worse than others.

Supporters of all parties often downplay those issues and will still vote for their preferred party and leader unless the issues are more serious.

[furrowtickler]

Meanwhile in Canada right now …


As farmers , with the majority as our asset value in “property” some here still crying over Trump ?
Really ??

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Meanwhile in Canada right now …


As farmers , with the majority as our asset value in “property” some here still crying over Trump ?
Really ??

And yet the Trudeau apologist above has the audacity to compare Trudeau's criminal corruption to Harper. Let alone to ignore all the Canadian scandals, while repetitively beating the Trump dead horse, even years after he is out of office.

[sumdumguy]

Seven democrats and two left wing republicans in a mock trial/inquiry. Shocking results! The msm covering this like some kind of massive breaking news. Most Americans, and people who can think for themselves? Well, we see through this charade.

Chucks and the left? Cling to every lie, every false word. Telling.

It’ll go no where, big waste of time and money. It’s a free country. As in you are free to say what you think as long as you believe it to be fact. These flat-earth democrats are actually very Dumocrat.

[Hamloc]

[QUOTE=dmlfarmer;541898]No, Trudeau won his Papineau riding with 49.5% of the votes cast. It is only voters in Papineau who can vote for Trudeau. (Trudeau won 22,526 of 45,502 votes cast). The Liberal party won the most seats in the H of C - 160/338 seats or 47.3% of the seats. The Conservatives won the popular vote 5,747,410 (33.74%) compared to the Liberals 5,556,629 (32.62%) but only won 119 seats therefore resulting in a minority Liberal government. That is how democracy works in Canada and your 18% number is simply spin.

Actually Dml voter turnout according to Elections Canada was 62.5% in Canada’s 2021 general election of which 32.62% voted Liberal. Therefore 20.39% of Canada’s eligible voters voted Liberal. Jazz wasn’t too far off.

[chuckChuck]

Meanwhile in Canada right now …


As farmers , with the majority as our asset value in “property” some here still crying over Trump ?
Really ??

Yup Conservatives have been big supporters of the oil industry right to take over your property and force oil and gas wells on your land whether you wanted them or not.

And if you dare take them to arbitration over any issue, the pro oil review boards will hand the oil companies a win just about every time.

All supported by the pro property rights Conservative friends of the oil companies. LOL

Been like that for a long time.

Hypocrisy runs deep amongst some Conservatives

[furrowtickler]

Yup Conservatives have been big supporters of the oil industry right to take over your property and force oil and gas wells on your land whether you wanted them or not.

And if you dare take them to arbitration over any issue, the pro oil review boards will hand the oil companies a win just about every time.

All supported by the pro property rights Conservative friends of the oil companies. LOL

Been like that for a long time.

Hypocrisy runs deep amongst some Conservatives

How many oil wells on your land , or steam plants? Lots in area , none on my farm . So what point are you making again ?
Point is from that tweet is that the Liberals believe and with the blessing of the NDP under the leadership of the UN and WEF that no one needs private property……. That’s where this is going . Not a few oil wells , which are now virtually obsolete with highly efficient steam plants .

[jazz]

Yup Conservatives have been big supporters of the oil industry right to take over your property and force oil and gas wells on your land whether you wanted them or not.

chucks right, my family was forced to take oil wells and a $10k cheque every yr for the last 45 yrs.

We are outraged.

[dmlfarmer]

[QUOTE=Hamloc;541945]

No, Trudeau won his Papineau riding with 49.5% of the votes cast. It is only voters in Papineau who can vote for Trudeau. (Trudeau won 22,526 of 45,502 votes cast). The Liberal party won the most seats in the H of C - 160/338 seats or 47.3% of the seats. The Conservatives won the popular vote 5,747,410 (33.74%) compared to the Liberals 5,556,629 (32.62%) but only won 119 seats therefore resulting in a minority Liberal government. That is how democracy works in Canada and your 18% number is simply spin.

Actually Dml voter turnout according to Elections Canada was 62.5% in Canada’s 2021 general election of which 32.62% voted Liberal. Therefore 20.39% of Canada’s eligible voters voted Liberal. Jazz wasn’t too far off.

Hamloc: And on the other hand only 33.74% voted Conservative X 62.5% = 21.08% voted Conservative. Statistically there was no difference in support for Conservatives at 21.08% or Liberal at 20.39%. So if you are trying to argue that there was not enough public support for a Liberal government, you have to admit the same for Conservative.

However, we do not have a proportional representation in Canada. Nor do we force all eligible citizens to vote so we do not know who the 37.5% would have supported have they voted. Government in Canada is determined by who wins the most seats and the Liberals won the election. Trying to argue with percentage of votes is simply spin.

[chuckChuck]

chucks right, my family was forced to take oil wells and a $10k cheque every yr for the last 45 yrs.

We are outraged.

The same lease payment for 45 years? Who let that happen? LOL

Did the price of your farm land not go up in 45 years? Because unless you signed a lease that said lease rates would not be reviewed, you are entitled to a review and higher compensation based on increasing land values.

In the good old days every smaller farmer was hoping for surface leases to help subsidize their farm.

Now many farmers look at the nuisance that never goes away and think do I want to drive around every lease and lease road with a 60 - 80 ft seeder for ever with rather paltry compensation?

In a good year the profit from one quarter can add up to more than $45,000. While the oil companies like to say you can farm the lease, the reality is the service rigs will tramp your crop, rut up your field and if you are unlucky the packing gives way and sprays your lease crop with oil and salt water. Not to mention the permanent damage caused by compaction during lease and road construction.

Its not all gravy and some oil companies stop making lease payments and never clean up their messes.
There are long list of orphaned and suspended wells and facilities across western Canada that farmers keep going around with little or no compensation because the oil company is long gone.

This is an industry that loves to complain about regulations, but in reality enjoys regulations that gives them access to your land and little power to stop them if you disagree. So much for property rights.