You Think ?????????, this ones for you chuckles

[Guest]

https://www.producer.com/news/canadas-nfu-out-of-step-with-other-nfus/

[furrowtickler]

The sound of silence… lol

[Landdownunder]

Guess i met about a dozen farmers stayed with 4 common thread no one likes NFU not a single one.

Complete opposite here but austcanada might see it differently.

No issue paying levies to our farmer organisations often lock horns with govt and go against the grain.

Many issues farmers at odds with govt.

State based.

Latest issue maybe 18 months ago GMO ban finally got lifted in our state.

Lots of hard work to get govt to see reason.

Single desk way way back, like farmers didn’t want it but die hard in govt held change up for a good 3 years. Then all necessary protocol and safety measures got in took 5 years long hard slog.

Over the fence trading of farm seed farmer to farmer another win against seed companies but gosh that was 15 yrs ago maybe.

Played huge role in gun debate 30 yrs ago as well.

Our guys work hard revolving boards. Think longest anyone can stay is 6 years no professional board sitting brain dead paid position farmers who stay for years, generational some father stays for years then son comes on that was outed at least 20 yrs ago.

Most of the best candidates never stand to busy farming.

And definitely no woke stuff kumbyah stuff etc

[furrowtickler]

NFU has some good points but the biggest reason they will never get widespread support is their stance on single desk . Not only do they want it back but they want it back for all commodities including canola ….. that will never fly , ever

[Guest]

the NFU we have is just a spin off socialist party from the NDP
lots of the board members still farm with 30 cockshutt tractors

[Landdownunder]

NFU has some good points but the biggest reason they will never get widespread support is their stance on single desk . Not only do they want it back but they want it back for all commodities including canola ….. that will never fly , ever

Is that a joke?

One could assume it’s all older guys then or younger guys with left leaning ideas?

[WiltonRanch]

the NFU we have is just a spin off socialist party from the NDP
lots of the board members still farm with 30 cockshutt tractors

My thoughts as well. Cockshutt 30 on a ccil pt combine. Probably use discers and crazy harrows to boot. Think the organic guys are NFU supporters. Go down the rabbit hole you’re bound to pick up flees.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

actually, most of them haven't yet graduated up to using something big, modern and mechanized as the Cockshutt 30. According to their website, most of the board of directors and staff are market gardener types, more concerned with genders in agriculture than any issues pertinent to farmers of any type or scale.

See for yourself:

https://www.nfu.ca/about/board-of-directors/

Or look up an old thread where I reposted some of their Bio's, and really aroused the ire of grassfarmer.

[Guest]

hmm, don't see Glenn on there ?, strange , musta ran?

[chuckChuck]

You boys getting ready for the freedumb rally on Canada day in Ottawa?

Got your hot tubs, toys and outfits picked out? Lol

[chuckChuck]

Maybe you can get a selfie with Crypto Polly? But don't ask about his bit coin investments or he might not smile for the camera.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, you are deflecting from the thread topic again. Please try to take your own advice and stick with the issues. What does PP or your favourite speedo wearing protestor have to do with the NFU?

What do you think, is the NFU currently out of touch with the issues of farmers, or organizations elsewhere i the world?

Is the average Canadian farmer mostly concerned about Indigenous land claims, climate change, genders, hydro dams, unions, and foreign socialist movements?

I think I saw the 2SLGBTQQIA+ acronym on their website more times than the words livestock or grain.

[cropgrower]

You boys getting ready for the freedumb rally on Canada day in Ottawa?

Got your hot tubs, toys and outfits picked out? Lol

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are you ready to go out and support your heroes ? they need a bit of support ,lots of scandals showing up ! and demand more jabs ,sombody might be kind enough to share a few more with you , dont forget to keep your masks on at all times

[Hamloc]

actually, most of them haven't yet graduated up to using something big, modern and mechanized as the Cockshutt 30. According to their website, most of the board of directors and staff are market gardener types, more concerned with genders in agriculture than any issues pertinent to farmers of any type or scale.

See for yourself:

https://www.nfu.ca/about/board-of-directors/

Or look up an old thread where I reposted some of their Bio's, and really aroused the ire of grassfarmer.

Actually took the time to look at the majority of the Bio’s. I didn’t find a single commercial of what I would call a traditional farmer in the bunch. All are organic(less than 5% of Canadian farmers I believe) farmers or market gardeners. While there is no doubt running a market garden takes a lot of work, their concerns and mine are totally different. I certainly agree with your thoughts on this AB5!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Actually took the time to look at the majority of the Bio’s. I didn’t find a single commercial of what I would call a traditional farmer in the bunch. All are organic(less than 5% of Canadian farmers I believe) farmers or market gardeners. While there is no doubt running a market garden takes a lot of work, their concerns and mine are totally different. I certainly agree with your thoughts on this AB5!

I agree, market gardnerers and organic farmers have just as much right to have a voice in farmer organizations. But their presence within the NFU is out of all proportion to their real world relevace.

Here is the old thread where I posted parts of their bio's, and press releases. It wasn't flattering.

The NFU members and apologists who were in Agriville at the time somehow decided to shoot the messenger.

https://www.agriville.com/threads/37969-does-nfu-represent-the-average-farmer-some-interesting-characters-on-their-board

Here is part of the first post:

is a landless farmer whom meanders between several locations

is interested in cooperative movements, trading metal mix-tapes, what other ***** folk (LGBTQQIP2SAA) are doing to the soil, and supports the opposition to Site C

an organic, small-scale farm (a very common theme, I didn't bother copy and pasting every time the word organic is used, since it is mostly all of them, nothing against organic producers, but Inote that they appear to be over represented amongst the NFU board members)

As the feedlot became less profitable due to corporate control of the cattle sector, he ended the feedlot to focus on cows and high quality, high protein Hard Red Spring Wheat. That ended with the dismantling of the Canadian Wheat Board.(Which is odd, since that was opposite to most wheat growers experiences)

true desire for social justice

need to refocus governments’ views away from the pro-corporate, profit agenda

undergraduate degree in Nutrition and Food Sciences and Food Policy where the topics of environmental stewardship and social justice captured his attention

is also a social worker and therapist.

was the co-director and founder of Sole Food Street Farms, a social enterprise that provides jobs and agricultural training for people in the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver.

the idea of owning land in unceded territories ... seems kind of messed up.

is an actor and theatre instructor

Bachelor of Environmental Studies

worked as a forestry technician with a local conservation authority

has spent the past several years working on organic farms

all farmers no matter their gender, age, or race

teaches Yoga at her local community centre

along with three (sometimes) helpful farm cats, they make a living selling organic vegetables and cut flowers


Other noteworthy items from their website,
They are very much opposed to hydro power, specifically site C dam in BC, which doesn't exactly square with the desire for renewable energy which they also support, not sure what site C dam has to do with farmers?
Lots of anti GMO
Lots of support for UN initiatives
Supporting climate change initiatives, including the carbon tax
Anti pipeline, pro First nations soveriegnty
Anti free trade/NAFTA/CETA
Pro bilingulism/Francophone (noteworthy that the only region without an NFU chapter is Quebec
Pro Pharmacare in Canada
Promoting prison farms
Anti growth hormones
Many media releases about gender
NFU is proud to endorse Idle No More’s “UNsettling Canada 150” Call to Action ( wouldn't that involve kicking farmers off the land, not sure if they thought that one through all the way?)
They are against property owners defending their own property or lives against criminals, but the entire cause of the problem is not enough women in the right positions
Solidarity with natives in US blocking pipelines
Concerned about Brazilian and Palestinian farmers rights
Concerned that the government of New Brunswick isn't doing more to help farmers due to low wild blueberry prices( at least it is almost farming related, but not sure how you farm a wild plant??? Can't it be one or the other?
They sent condolences to Colten Boushie
Supports migrant workers
Endorses LEAP Manifesto
Supported ALberta's bill 6, farm safety bill brought in by NDP, which was universally opposed by all in the industry
SUpported Lawrence Macaulay, previous federal ag minister
Concerned about support for Libraries
Against TPP
Pro supply management ( at least it is ag related)
Still lamenting the fall of the CWB, and longing for the good old days.