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[chuckChuck]

Maybe you can get a selfie with Crypto Polly? But don't ask about his bit coin investments or he might not smile for the camera.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, you are deflecting from the thread topic again. Please try to take your own advice and stick with the issues. What does PP or your favourite speedo wearing protestor have to do with the NFU?

What do you think, is the NFU currently out of touch with the issues of farmers, or organizations elsewhere i the world?

Is the average Canadian farmer mostly concerned about Indigenous land claims, climate change, genders, hydro dams, unions, and foreign socialist movements?

I think I saw the 2SLGBTQQIA+ acronym on their website more times than the words livestock or grain.

[cropgrower]

You boys getting ready for the freedumb rally on Canada day in Ottawa?

Got your hot tubs, toys and outfits picked out? Lol

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are you ready to go out and support your heroes ? they need a bit of support ,lots of scandals showing up ! and demand more jabs ,sombody might be kind enough to share a few more with you , dont forget to keep your masks on at all times

[Hamloc]

actually, most of them haven't yet graduated up to using something big, modern and mechanized as the Cockshutt 30. According to their website, most of the board of directors and staff are market gardener types, more concerned with genders in agriculture than any issues pertinent to farmers of any type or scale.

See for yourself:

https://www.nfu.ca/about/board-of-directors/

Or look up an old thread where I reposted some of their Bio's, and really aroused the ire of grassfarmer.

Actually took the time to look at the majority of the Bio’s. I didn’t find a single commercial of what I would call a traditional farmer in the bunch. All are organic(less than 5% of Canadian farmers I believe) farmers or market gardeners. While there is no doubt running a market garden takes a lot of work, their concerns and mine are totally different. I certainly agree with your thoughts on this AB5!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Actually took the time to look at the majority of the Bio’s. I didn’t find a single commercial of what I would call a traditional farmer in the bunch. All are organic(less than 5% of Canadian farmers I believe) farmers or market gardeners. While there is no doubt running a market garden takes a lot of work, their concerns and mine are totally different. I certainly agree with your thoughts on this AB5!

I agree, market gardnerers and organic farmers have just as much right to have a voice in farmer organizations. But their presence within the NFU is out of all proportion to their real world relevace.

Here is the old thread where I posted parts of their bio's, and press releases. It wasn't flattering.

The NFU members and apologists who were in Agriville at the time somehow decided to shoot the messenger.

https://www.agriville.com/threads/37969-does-nfu-represent-the-average-farmer-some-interesting-characters-on-their-board

Here is part of the first post:

is a landless farmer whom meanders between several locations

is interested in cooperative movements, trading metal mix-tapes, what other ***** folk (LGBTQQIP2SAA) are doing to the soil, and supports the opposition to Site C

an organic, small-scale farm (a very common theme, I didn't bother copy and pasting every time the word organic is used, since it is mostly all of them, nothing against organic producers, but Inote that they appear to be over represented amongst the NFU board members)

As the feedlot became less profitable due to corporate control of the cattle sector, he ended the feedlot to focus on cows and high quality, high protein Hard Red Spring Wheat. That ended with the dismantling of the Canadian Wheat Board.(Which is odd, since that was opposite to most wheat growers experiences)

true desire for social justice

need to refocus governments’ views away from the pro-corporate, profit agenda

undergraduate degree in Nutrition and Food Sciences and Food Policy where the topics of environmental stewardship and social justice captured his attention

is also a social worker and therapist.

was the co-director and founder of Sole Food Street Farms, a social enterprise that provides jobs and agricultural training for people in the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver.

the idea of owning land in unceded territories ... seems kind of messed up.

is an actor and theatre instructor

Bachelor of Environmental Studies

worked as a forestry technician with a local conservation authority

has spent the past several years working on organic farms

all farmers no matter their gender, age, or race

teaches Yoga at her local community centre

along with three (sometimes) helpful farm cats, they make a living selling organic vegetables and cut flowers


Other noteworthy items from their website,
They are very much opposed to hydro power, specifically site C dam in BC, which doesn't exactly square with the desire for renewable energy which they also support, not sure what site C dam has to do with farmers?
Lots of anti GMO
Lots of support for UN initiatives
Supporting climate change initiatives, including the carbon tax
Anti pipeline, pro First nations soveriegnty
Anti free trade/NAFTA/CETA
Pro bilingulism/Francophone (noteworthy that the only region without an NFU chapter is Quebec
Pro Pharmacare in Canada
Promoting prison farms
Anti growth hormones
Many media releases about gender
NFU is proud to endorse Idle No More’s “UNsettling Canada 150” Call to Action ( wouldn't that involve kicking farmers off the land, not sure if they thought that one through all the way?)
They are against property owners defending their own property or lives against criminals, but the entire cause of the problem is not enough women in the right positions
Solidarity with natives in US blocking pipelines
Concerned about Brazilian and Palestinian farmers rights
Concerned that the government of New Brunswick isn't doing more to help farmers due to low wild blueberry prices( at least it is almost farming related, but not sure how you farm a wild plant??? Can't it be one or the other?
They sent condolences to Colten Boushie
Supports migrant workers
Endorses LEAP Manifesto
Supported ALberta's bill 6, farm safety bill brought in by NDP, which was universally opposed by all in the industry
SUpported Lawrence Macaulay, previous federal ag minister
Concerned about support for Libraries
Against TPP
Pro supply management ( at least it is ag related)
Still lamenting the fall of the CWB, and longing for the good old days.

[WiltonRanch]

Sad but when the good old cbc needs an interview for an ag related topic who do they ask 80% of the time? Typical bunch of socialist scum. Jealous of people being successful and not sharing in their own private misery and hell.

[chuckChuck]

Speaking of socialists scum! According to some, Crypto Polly is a socialist too when it comes to supply management. LOL

By the way Wilton, have you sent back or turned down all the "socialist" subsidies you received from tax payers over your farming career?

And do you use public healthcare, drive on public roads and send your kids to public schools?

Do your senior relatives receive Old Age Security and the Guaranteed Income Supplement? Very popular "socialist" wealth transfer programs designed to help keep seniors out of poverty.

Most republicans in the US think all Canadians are socialists, even you Wilton. So be carefull when you call everyone but yourself a socialist. Look in the mirror Wilton you are looking at an alleged socialist. LOL


Bernier says Poilievre is ‘leftist’ on supply management issue

People’s Party of Canada (PPC) leader Maxime Bernier said Pierre Poilievre is revealing his “leftist party” ways, following Polievre’s comments on supply management issues in Canada’s agriculture sector.

Bernier took to Twitter saying he wasn’t surprised Poilievre won’t change supply management in agriculture.

“The LibCons are in the pocket of the dairy cartel,” he tweeted, adding it is the cartel who “decides who can and cannot be leader.”

During an interview aired on Wednesday with the Western Standard’s Cory Morgan, federal Conservative leadership candidate Poilievre said he wouldn’t propose to change the current agriculture price and production controls.

The Soviet-style supply management of certain sections of Canada’s agriculture sector leads to artificially high prices by setting production quotas and large import taxes and prohibitions on imported dairy and other products.

Poilievre said he wouldn’t do away with the current program because “farmers who own the quota [permits] have had to pay millions of dollars for it,” and doing away with the current program would cost more than keeping it in place.

“His message isn’t coherent with conservative values,” Bernier told the Western Standard.

[jazz]

“His message isn’t coherent with conservative values,” Bernier told the Western Standard.

Maybe not, but he is going to work the trade off in this socialist utopia. East gets to keep their farming daycare program, but they get the absolute **** you controlling our western resources, quebec include. The oil and potash and gas and everything else is going to flow, no barriers. Climate agenda to be turfed. That point will be made clear day one.

Let the americans take care of supply management.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, you are deflecting and avoiding the topic again.
What about the NFU?

[WiltonRanch]

Chuck, you are deflecting and avoiding the topic again.
What about the NFU?

Exactly. I hit a nerve there and he goes off on a tangent again about crypto poly and Bernier supporting supply management. Yes Chuck tell us how you help the NFU appeal to the majority of farmers. Like the ndp the NFU appeals to a small subset of the ag industry.