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    #49
    It was the literal definition of coercion.

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      #50
      Originally posted by Partners View Post
      If your a parent..how can you support abortion?
      As a parent, IMHO there is nothing more cruel and abusive to a child than being raised unwanted and unloved, likely in poverty, and possibly with physical impairments as the result of other bad decisions made by an unwilling mother.

      The best such a child could hope for is to be dumped into an already overburdened fostercare system and maybe be adopted. And while such an adoption may provide a loving home, there will always be a part of the child knowing it had been abandoned not only by the mother, but even more so by the father who, more than likely, bore no emotional, financial, or physical responsibility for that roll in the hay. Hell, he might even be revered by his friends for his "quest"

      Morality cannot be legislated. And who am I to judge anyway. The abortion decision should between the woman and her God. It is he who she must answer too in the end.

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        #51
        Roe v Wade was ruled on in Jan 1973 to protect the rights of women to have an abortion.

        Now the angry old rural men are using the Covid vax mandates as their comeback for their anti abortion stance.

        Hell of a comparison guys.

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          #52
          I will never understand the logic of some people. So you MIGHT be unloved unwanted, killing you is better for you? Think about what you said.

          Wife was adopted from what ever the birth mother situation was...

          So you would have killed my wife just because her life MIGHT have been shitty?

          As a result my sons and grandsons would not exist....

          You guys are a piece of work.

          And a woman's decision between her and her god?

          Sorry if aborting is even an option, you have NO god.

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            #53
            Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
            Roe v Wade was ruled on in Jan 1973 to protect the rights of women to have an abortion.

            Now the angry old rural men are using the Covid vax mandates as their comeback for their anti abortion stance.

            Hell of a comparison guys.
            Alot has changed since 1973..

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              #54
              The same people who are often pro life are often times the same people who are opposed to sex education in the classroom.

              So the idea that birth control will solve the problem, ignores the fact that many people don't get good advice or information on birth control. sex and human relationships.

              Of course effective birth control is the best option, but there are lots of people who wont use contraception.

              The catholic church is opposed to contraception along with many fundamentalist religions. In this day and age that is ridiculous.

              The reality is women have unplanned pregnancies for a variety of reasons including sexual assault and in relationships with irresponsible young men who use women for sex.

              Case in point the young woman who was gang ****d by some of Canada's U18 national hockey team.

              One of the players has consensual sex with an inebriated young woman in a hotel room and the POS invites his team mates over to have a go.

              And Hockey Canada wants to cover it up because some of the players are now in the NHL!

              They settled with her out of court and there were no criminal charges! And Hockey Canada says they don't know who the players are? WTF? This will ruin a few hockey careers. And so it should.

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                #55
                Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                I will never understand the logic of some people. So you MIGHT be unloved unwanted, killing you is better for you? Think about what you said.

                Wife was adopted from what ever the birth mother situation was...

                So you would have killed my wife just because her life MIGHT have been shitty?

                As a result my sons and grandsons would not exist....

                You guys are a piece of work.

                And a woman's decision between her and her god?

                Sorry if aborting is even an option, you have NO god.
                So why do you need a mythical entity? The point is her mother made the decision not the state.
                Last edited by agstar77; Jun 26, 2022, 08:15.

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                  #56
                  Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                  Morality cannot be legislated. And who am I to judge anyway. The abortion decision should between the woman and her God. It is he who she must answer too in the end.
                  The costs of abortion are socialized, there fore society definitely has a say in this. Trudeau just invited american women to get abortions up here on our dime. (after they get vaccinated).

                  If the decision is a womans alone, then so is the burden. They pay for it. And then they pay for the reproductive services when they are finally ready and need a battery of tests or IVF to finally conceive in their late 30s.

                  And no, men should not get off either. If the woman decided to keep it, then a paternity test and legal commitment by the father should be part of the deal. And also, maybe the state should give women without the means some funding to help sway the decision. I mean if we can send $100B a week to Ukraine, I am sure we can give a baby bonus to any mothers who decide to carry to term.

                  The morning after pill is effective up to 8 weeks. Chemical abortion. At 20 weeks, the fetus will fight the abortion instruments. This is ghastly.

                  When did safe and rare become abortion after birth. This all needs to be put back in the bottle. Gave an inch they took a mile. Now its abortion on demand. Thats nuts.

                  I just read in the US its a federal offense punishable by prison term to destroy a bald eagle egg. OMG

                  And where is that male birth control pill. Still in studies. Maybe give it to Pfizer or Moderna to fast track. Or just get another dose of the vaccine and sterilize yourself.
                  Last edited by jazz; Jun 26, 2022, 09:17.

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                    #57
                    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                    As a parent, IMHO there is nothing more cruel and abusive to a child than being raised unwanted and unloved, likely in poverty, and possibly with physical impairments as the result of other bad decisions made by an unwilling mother.

                    The best such a child could hope for is to be dumped into an already overburdened fostercare system and maybe be adopted. And while such an adoption may provide a loving home, there will always be a part of the child knowing it had been abandoned not only by the mother, but even more so by the father who, more than likely, bore no emotional, financial, or physical responsibility for that roll in the hay. Hell, he might even be revered by his friends for his "quest"

                    Morality cannot be legislated. And who am I to judge anyway. The abortion decision should between the woman and her God. It is he who she must answer too in the end.
                    Is that your “conservative heritage” speaking again?

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                      #58
                      abortion is an industry that rakes in billions a yr... but guys like chuck want to keep there mnra vaccines in good supply so they will support the selling of fetal tissue and stem cells to the highest bidders

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                        #59
                        Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                        As a parent, IMHO there is nothing more cruel and abusive to a child than being raised unwanted and unloved, likely in poverty, and possibly with physical impairments as the result of other bad decisions made by an unwilling mother.

                        The best such a child could hope for is to be dumped into an already overburdened fostercare system and maybe be adopted. And while such an adoption may provide a loving home, there will always be a part of the child knowing it had been abandoned not only by the mother, but even more so by the father who, more than likely, bore no emotional, financial, or physical responsibility for that roll in the hay. Hell, he might even be revered by his friends for his "quest"

                        Morality cannot be legislated. And who am I to judge anyway. The abortion decision should between the woman and her God. It is he who she must answer too in the end.
                        So your answer is to destroy the life before they themselves could have a say if there life is worth living? That is FAR more cruel IMHO.

                        100% agree on your last statement tho.

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                          #60
                          humans are not animals , if they are old enough to be doing IT they shud be inteligent enought to know how to not get pregnant , inocent baby shud not be murdered because people dont use their brains
                          Last edited by cropgrower; Jun 26, 2022, 16:45.

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