Carbon Tax Rebate

[chuckChuck]

Already had this discussion last winter with A4.

If you charge at home with your own electricity the savings are much greater. Especially if you have a solar PV system that reduces your costs even further or live in a low cost electricity province like Quebec or Manitoba that has much cheaper hydro.

It would be good to have A4 comment on his Tesla experience again and compare the numbers.


A very fuel efficient small ICE car is still the most affordable and effective option to reduce transportation costs and emissions.

But most of the market was/is for larger less efficient vehicles.


Now the market for high fuel efficiency ICE, EVs and hybrids is taking off.

Owning a gas guzzling pickup or large SUV as a primary vehicle when you really don't need one in the suburbs has a huge cost premium.

[Hamloc]

Already had this discussion last winter with A4.

If you charge at home with your own electricity the savings are much greater. Especially if you have a solar PV system that reduces your costs even further or live in a low cost electricity province like Quebec or Manitoba that has much cheaper hydro.

It would be good to have A4 comment on his Tesla experience again and compare the numbers.


A very fuel efficient small ICE car is still the most affordable and effective option to reduce transportation costs and emissions.

But most of the market was/is for larger less efficient vehicles.


Now the market for high fuel efficiency ICE, EVs and hybrids is taking off.

Owning a gas guzzling pickup or large SUV as a primary vehicle when you really don't need one in the suburbs has a huge cost premium.

So 2 vehicles on the same road driven the same day in the same weather isn’t an accurate comparison?

[Partners]

Compare the same trip in the winter..
Gormley stated 700 EV in sask..out of 1 million people..
That should be enough to save us..
The promo is that charging is free at home...
Wonder what will happen when people refuse to buy EV?

[jazz]

A4 should chime in again and I can tell him Tesla is going to zero. Without govt subsidies that zombie company is as good as dead and buried.

[furrowtickler]

Already had this discussion last winter with A4.

If you charge at home with your own electricity the savings are much greater. Especially if you have a solar PV system that reduces your costs even further or live in a low cost electricity province like Quebec or Manitoba that has much cheaper hydro.

It would be good to have A4 comment on his Tesla experience again and compare the numbers.


A very fuel efficient small ICE car is still the most affordable and effective option to reduce transportation costs and emissions.

But most of the market was/is for larger less efficient vehicles.


Now the market for high fuel efficiency ICE, EVs and hybrids is taking off.

Owning a gas guzzling pickup or large SUV as a primary vehicle when you really don't need one in the suburbs has a huge cost premium.

Not going to disagree here, especially your last sentence. Charging stations at home are not free , so it’s the EV plus the cost of the at home charging station that needs to be factored as one
Suggest you go to some website where the Suburbia folks hang out and shame them , most of us here need a pickup to operate our farms on nearly a daily basis . Carry out your vandetta somewhere else .

[blackpowder]

Revenue Neutral Tax.
If you still believe that oxymoron, you're an idiot.
Everything in our lives depends on the stored solar energy found in hydrocarbons.
This is a not so cleverly disguised consumption tax to increase general revenues.
And yes, grocery and fuel bills are double what they were a short time ago.
In the future maybe PMs should post their receipts over and above what the govt pays for.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Already had this discussion last winter with A4.

If you charge at home with your own electricity the savings are much greater. Especially if you have a solar PV system that reduces your costs even further .

Was that the same discussion where he kept telling you you didn't have a clue what you were talking about because you were insisting that we should be using electric vehicles as grid storage batteries?

[blackpowder]

Not to mention that charging at home means never going far from it.
Which the majority of people don't do I suppose. How can Chuck live in Sask and have a desire for all to live like Toronto?

[shtferbrains]

Ford Lightning ev pickup reportedly has a range of 54 miles when pulling a camper trailer.
We are about 1hr 20 min from Candle Lake with no charging station likely ever coming.
Pulling the camper you would have the option of pulling over and running power plant on the camper for 3 or 4 hrs.

Kind of kills the possibility of a fishing tour of the northern lakes.

It would seem there might be a big opportunity for high end Motorhomes to take advantage of the lower cost per mile of the EV option but range might be an issue?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Last weekend we had a family function in Salmon Arm BC. I was sitting around visiting with my sister in law. It was kind of funny she brought up the drive out. For her she lives in Red Deer it was just under 650 km. We got to discussing gas prices. She drives a Mazda CX-3. I was fairly impressed she said she filled once on the way and cost her $50. Her daughter and son in law drive a plug in Kia Niro Ev. They had to stop twice to charge and it cost them $42. What was interesting was my sister in law had more left in her gas tank by percentage than they did as percentage of charge in their battery when they arrived and it took then 2 hours longer to get there due to charging time to save $8 dollars. This is an actual example not some Liberal fantasy espoused by Stephen Guilbeault!! Lol.

So Chuck2 if your talking actual cost of travel, yes the plug in electric is a little cheaper but what is your time worth? And I have to admit at today’s gas prices I thought the electric car would save more money!

And that $8 wouldn't even come close to paying the road taxes let alone all of the other taxes on fuel that the EV drivers are getting a free ride on so far.