PP new Conservative leader

[Hamloc]

I've said this before. The Conservative party is screwed. All the attributes, and positions required to win the leadership amongst the hardcore card carrying social conservatives, are exactly the same positions that make it impossible to appeal to the more centrist majority at election time.

I fully expect Pollievre to quietly distance himself from the radicals, and ignore everything he promised so far, and move to the center. That will alienate the social conservatives, but they have nowhere else to go.

I think Trudeau is so univerally hated, and people are so ready for a change, that it might actually work this time. But the outcome will be the same, at least if they want to get re-elected next time around.

I do not disagree with you AB5 but there was what 675000 Conservative party members(from memory could be off on the number) of which what about 2/3 voted and of those who voted 68% voted for Pierre. Certainly not all social conservatives in my opinion. As for what Warren Kinsella said, not surprised in the least, the Liberal election machine is just beginning the attacks. They will soon be in full attack mode, Pierre is popular and they should be afraid because Pierre won’t back away from a fight.

[chuckChuck]

He is already pulling back from the overheated "freedumb convoy" rhetoric.

He will quietly shelve a lot of the dumbass ideas that only appeal to angry conservatives who are never happy. Like crypto currency, the WEF great reset and interfering in the Bank of Canada independence , and defunding the CBC.

There is no way to win the country without appealing to to the vast majority of voters who are progressive conservative and centre left.

[dmlfarmer]

I do not disagree with you AB5 but there was what 675000 Conservative party members(from memory could be off on the number) of which what about 2/3 voted and of those who voted 68% voted for Pierre. Certainly not all social conservatives in my opinion. As for what Warren Kinsella said, not surprised in the least, the Liberal election machine is just beginning the attacks. They will soon be in full attack mode, Pierre is popular and they should be afraid because Pierre won’t back away from a fight.

295,000 voted for Poilievre. Not even all the members his campaign signed up voted for him (over 300.000) That is a long way from the number of votes needed for Conservatives to win federally.

Poilievre whose campaign was an attack ad against Trudeau, yet you are now worried about Liberal attacks on him given he has won the leadership? He set himself up for those attacks with crazy policy and associations.

The really sad part is instead of voting for a government we want, Canadians are being told to vote against a personality. A sure fire way to get what you don't want.

[jazz]

Did someone just quote Kinsella. Wow. If there was ever a top scumbag in the political field he takes the cake. Ignore it. Not relevant.

Maybe dml can rewatch PPs videos, they are a direct attack on policy while Trudeaus teams are hardened race baiters.

And if you dont think inflation isnt a top issue, you are in lala land. Its taking over the narrative above all else and Trudeau is out preaching climate change and whatever, while Canadians borrowing costs have doubled since he printed up $600B including another $20B this past summer.

Only chuck harps on the convoy, the majority of people who dont live in Ottawa are grateful to them for shattering the covid marxist tyranny, except chuck, he loves being told what to do.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Did someone just quote Kinsella. Wow. If there was ever a top scumbag in the political field he takes the cake. Ignore it. Not relevant.

Maybe dml can rewatch PPs videos, they are a direct attack on policy while Trudeaus teams are hardened race baiters.

And if you dont think inflation isnt a top issue, you are in lala land. Its taking over the narrative above all else and Trudeau is out preaching climate change and whatever, while Canadians borrowing costs have doubled since he printed up $600B including another $20B this past summer.

Only chuck harps on the convoy, the majority of people who dont live in Ottawa are grateful to them for shattering the covid marxist tyranny, except chuck, he loves being told what to do.

Yes, but Kinsella detests Trudeau and everything about the current iteration of the Liberal party. He is still a Cretien Liberal.

So, as they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I do occasionally read or listen to what he has to say. Rather than live in a biased bubble and turn into a Chuckchuck.

[blackpowder]

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Canada elects liberal govts 2 out of 3 times. Governed by them 2/3rds of our history.
Making a Conservative govt a protest vote by Central Canada. A broom to make the Liberals new again.
Doesn't matter today. The Prince has 3 more years. A lot can happen.
Then PP for a max of 7 and back to 10 years of what central Canada and the ever left of center liberal/NDP.
Power is not equal.
It will not matter.

[WiltonRanch]

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Canada elects liberal govts 2 out of 3 times. Governed by them 2/3rds of our history.
Making a Conservative govt a protest vote by Central Canada. A broom to make the Liberals new again.
Doesn't matter today. The Prince has 3 more years. A lot can happen.
Then PP for a max of 7 and back to 10 years of what central Canada and the ever left of center liberal/NDP.
Power is not equal.
It will not matter.

Liberals deem themselves canadas naturally ruling party. Like you alluded they rule so long until their hubris gets the best of them. Periodically they bring in the NDP CCF or Progressives to hold power only to take them down with them when the tide turns. Wash rinse repeat. Trudeau and Singh will screw things up even more trying to hold power to the end. Polivierre will have time to cultivate the centre more so I think. In the meantime with Kenney gone the will in Alberta will be there along with Saskatchewan to firewall our provinces. If conservatives get in too soon this will be put on the back burner again.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Kenney gone the will in Alberta will be there along with Saskatchewan to firewall our provinces. If conservatives get in too soon this will be put on the back burner again.

Personally, I am cheering for the liberals and NDP to stay in power as long as possible, for the exact reason you just stated.
Nothing will change if an actual conservative gets elected.
The raping and pillaging of the West and the resource sectors will continue unabated, but at least they will be more polite about it, and it will delay the inevitable.

[WiltonRanch]

Personally, I am cheering for the liberals and NDP to stay in power as long as possible, for the exact reason you just stated.
Nothing will change if an actual conservative gets elected.
The raping and pillaging of the West and the resource sectors will continue unabated, but at least they will be more polite about it, and it will delay the inevitable.

Almost swear Kenney was a federalist plant or something. I am not a separatist by any means but I’m a westerner and we need provincial governments which stick up for the provinces and not kiss hole to the feds. Don’t have to be extremist wackos but just stand up and protect what you represent.

[chuckChuck]

Harper was a federalist plant too and you probably voted for him? LOL

Do you think a Prime Minister Poilievre will encourage the provinces of perennial discontent to separate and break up the country?

Did he run on breaking up the country?

What are you guys smokin over their in the land of milk and money?

[Hamloc]

295,000 voted for Poilievre. Not even all the members his campaign signed up voted for him (over 300.000) That is a long way from the number of votes needed for Conservatives to win federally.

Poilievre whose campaign was an attack ad against Trudeau, yet you are now worried about Liberal attacks on him given he has won the leadership? He set himself up for those attacks with crazy policy and associations.

The really sad part is instead of voting for a government we want, Canadians are being told to vote against a personality. A sure fire way to get what you don't want.

Good article in the National Post by Tristen Hopper:”FIRST READING:Poilievre didn’t just win the leadership, he really, really(really) won”

“Against a personality”? Trudeau and his woke moronic policies is more than a personality! It was his lineage that got him the job, let’s be realistic!

So the present Liberal government was voted in by just under 20% of eligible voters, you think that is what Canadians want?

[blackpowder]

"The more you have the more others want to take from you". Human nature.
So I'm gonna agree.
Yes, we are in the land of milk and money. For now. And anyone who wants to take without earning it should really be looking down a barrel.
I do not hate, or feel ashamed of where I live. Any individual disturbed enough to do so can leave for better parts.
Just hired a guy from the Island.
Loves the freedom and cheaper living here. Self employed too.
Just the guy Chuck hates and just the kind we need. If you're not happy here, move. Chuck.