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    #37
    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    Much as I think Russia blew it up I don’t see a good reason for them to do so. Cut off their nose …. However Russia/Putin has been backed in a corner and when so animals and humans do illogical things. Only thing I can reason is it’s a false flag to implicate the USA. Seen a Biden speech floating around where he says Nordstream should be stopped by any means possible. Imagine Russian actors are helping it be distributed but context is key as well. Funny though that another pipeline from Norway is coming on stream and capacity can be doubled. Maybe Norway blew it. Aside from present smaller capacity Russian gas is cut off from the west. They are stuck with India and China at discounted rates. I’m perplexed by it all.
    I also think the USA had more involvement in sabotaging the Nordstream pipelines than anyone else.
    The WEF needs to keep nat gas and oil prices high to accomplish their 2030 agenda and beyond.

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      #38
      Originally posted by biglentil View Post
      Ok Tom Russia blew up its own pipeline that buys them leverage over Germany. Wow
      Virtually the day Nordstream 2 was finished, Putin attacked Ukraine.

      Putin misjudged Germany he thought that they would open the line 2 and take the Natural Gas… but everything went sideways.

      Blunders galore… Putin misjudged the EU solidarity… willingness to take Ukrainians…

      Blame the US… Putin’s perfect red flag operation… easy to fix the pipe lines… (if they want) or if they ever do…

      now UAE and Norway… plus LNG from US… Britain fracking, Israel about to open another big NG field…no purpose if EU gets gas from everyone else…

      Russia will send gas east… Nordstream is useless…

      Cheers

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        #39
        Originally posted by ry0972 View Post
        I also think the USA had more involvement in sabotaging the Nordstream pipelines than anyone else.
        The WEF needs to keep nat gas and oil prices high to accomplish their 2030 agenda and beyond.
        JFK tried to out the deepstate and revoke the Feds licence to issue 'Federal Reserve Notes' he lasted a week.

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          #40
          Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
          Virtually the day Nordstream 2 was finished, Putin attacked Ukraine.

          Putin misjudged Germany he thought that they would open the line 2 and take the Natural Gas… but everything went sideways.

          Blunders galore… Putin misjudged the EU solidarity… willingness to take Ukrainians…

          Blame the US… Putin’s perfect red flag operation… easy to fix the pipe lines… (if they want) or if they ever do…

          now UAE and Norway… plus LNG from US… Britain fracking, Israel about to open another big NG field…no purpose if EU gets gas from everyone else…

          Russia will send gas east… Nordstream is useless…

          Cheers
          It’ll be great for China and India getting an endless supply of cheap oil and gas. I wonder though with western operators out of Russia how does that translate to the decline rate of their wells? Buddy worked in Azerbaijan trying to fix fields Soviet era oil technology absolutely made a mess of. Russia has made themselves a pariah right now. Even if Russia leaves Ukraine, makes peace, and ousts Putin; who do they look to investment and technological know how in O&G? Fellow BRICS nations? Iran?

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            #41
            Stranded production and driving investment away?

            We're not at war with anyone are we?

            Isn't Putin getting more than western select?
            Last edited by shtferbrains; Sep 29, 2022, 19:17.

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              #42
              Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
              Stranded production and driving investment away?

              We're not at war with anyone are we?

              Isn't Putin getting more than western select?
              Germany needs to borrow $200billion euros… to make it through / tackle the gas price surge…

              Facebook Meta is now doing budget cuts and layoffs…

              The Ukrainian war has cost the world economy over $8.9 Trillion




              Cheers

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                #43
                OMG Tom you are going right off the rails.

                How much did covid cost the world. More than $30T was printed up during that period and that doesn't even account for the social costs.

                US blew up Nord stream to stop Germany from pivoting back to Russia for energy. They were testing under water drones in that same region mere days ago.

                There are already riots and protests starting in many EU countries. German economy will be destroyed just to be a US deep state lapdog.

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                  #44
                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  OMG Tom you are going right off the rails.

                  How much did covid cost the world. More than $30T was printed up during that period and that doesn't even account for the social costs.

                  US blew up Nord stream to stop Germany from pivoting back to Russia for energy. They were testing under water drones in that same region mere days ago.

                  There are already riots and protests starting in many EU countries. German economy will be destroyed just to be a US deep state lapdog.
                  This is what I was thinking as well but I wouldn’t count out a Russian false flag. They’re kings of bullshit and disinformation.

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                    #45
                    It is criminal that Trudeau is so stubborn. Canada sits on a treasure trove of energy. Europe needs a reliable source and Trudeau just sticks his nose in the air and says, “ there’s no infrastructure here”, and “I ain’t about to budge because it’ll make the West rich.” That’s our boy wonder.

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                      #46
                      Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                      Much as I think Russia blew it up I don’t see a good reason for them to do so. Cut off their nose …. However Russia/Putin has been backed in a corner and when so animals and humans do illogical things. Only thing I can reason is it’s a false flag to implicate the USA. Seen a Biden speech floating around where he says Nordstream should be stopped by any means possible. Imagine Russian actors are helping it be distributed but context is key as well. Funny though that another pipeline from Norway is coming on stream and capacity can be doubled. Maybe Norway blew it. Aside from present smaller capacity Russian gas is cut off from the west. They are stuck with India and China at discounted rates. I’m perplexed by it all.
                      Here's the link to that speech, I posted it on page 1

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                        #47
                        Media "news Depts" are saying it must be Russia that blew up the pipelines,,, because Russia would benefit from rising energy prices in Europe due to the pipelines being shutin.

                        But weren't the lines already being shutdown, and wasn't Russia's energy being boycotted, and to be completely shutout of Europe by spring?

                        What if the ChiComs blew it up, they could sit back and watch the blame being tossed back and forth between USA and Russia. All the while, Russia has lost out on sales to Europe, and with extra gas now available, could mean cheaper prices for China.

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                          #48
                          Maybe the Vikings blew them up, some one knows, but for sure it’s not us, we’ve had our noses in chaff and our scuba diving gear is rotting in the boathouse. All we know for sure is that we aren’t Europeans because our brave ancestors hopped on a boat destined for the “Pallister Triangle”. 💪🏼🐎💪🏼

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