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    #11
    Just contemplating the scenario of the globalists operating as nato 'winning' the war against Russian which is taking place in the Ukraine. First thing would be a purge of the ethnic Russian's in the Donbass killing many and having the rest flee to Russian territory. This has been the goal of the nationalists since 2014. The next thing would be prototypical 'globalist' state being set up although much of that is already in place. Corruption will know no bounds. Going to have to get jabbed in they want you too. They will then be emboldened to expand the war against the people around the world including here in canuckistan.
    Last edited by ajl; Oct 2, 2022, 22:50.

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      #12
      When the bulk cargo ship Laodicea docked in Lebanon last summer, Ukrainian diplomats said the vessel was carrying grain stolen by Russia and urged Lebanese officials to impound the ship. Meanwhile, the Russian military has attacked farms, grain silos and shipping facilities still under Ukrainian control with artillery and air strikes, destroying food, driving up prices and reducing the flow of grain from a country long known as the breadbasket of Europe.




      Sun, October 2, 2022, 10:11 PM
      BEIRUT (AP) — When the bulk cargo ship Laodicea docked in Lebanon last summer, Ukrainian diplomats said the vessel was carrying grain stolen by Russia and urged Lebanese officials to impound the ship.

      Moscow called the allegation “false and baseless,” and Lebanon’s prosecutor general sided with the Kremlin and declared that the 10,000 tons of barley and wheat flour wasn’t stolen and allowed the ship to unload.

      But an investigation by The Associated Press and the PBS series “Frontline” has found the Laodicea, owned by Syria, is part of a sophisticated Russian-run smuggling operation that has used falsified manifests and seaborne subterfuge to steal Ukrainian grain worth at least $530 million — cash that has helped feed President Vladimir Putin’s war machine.

      AP used satellite imagery and marine radio transponder data to track three dozen ships making more than 50 voyages carrying grain from Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine to ports in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and other countries. Reporters reviewed shipping manifests, searched social media posts, and interviewed farmers, shippers and corporate officials to uncover the details of the massive smuggling operation.

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      This story is part of an AP/FRONTLINE investigation that includes the War Crimes Watch Ukraine interactive experience and and upcoming documentary, “Putin’s Attack on Ukraine: Documenting War Crimes,” which premieres 10/9c Oct. 25 on PBS.

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      The ongoing theft, which legal experts say is a potential war crime, is being carried out by wealthy businessmen and state-owned companies in Russia and Syria, some of them already facing financial sanctions from the United States and European Union.

      Meanwhile, the Russian military has attacked farms, grain silos and shipping facilities still under Ukrainian control with artillery and air strikes, destroying food, driving up prices and reducing the flow of grain from a country long known as the breadbasket of Europe.

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      While there is little evidence Ukrainians themselves are under threat of famine, Russia’s war of aggression has starved its economy of export revenue. In 2021, before Russia’s most recent invasion, Ukraine exported $5 billion worth of wheat, corn and vegetable oils — primarily in the Middle East, Africa and Asia.

      The high prices haven’t helped Ukrainian farmers in the occupied regions, who have been forced to sell their harvests to Russian-controlled companies for half of what they would have been paid before the war, according to Fedorov, the Melitopol mayor. If a farmer refuses, he said, the Russians just take the grain anyway, paying nothing.

      “It is a very low price, and our farmers don’t understand what they can do,” said Fedorov, who evacuated to Ukrainian-controlled territory after the invasion but keeps in touch with people back home.

      Ukrainian agricultural holding company HarvEast reported that Russians had taken about 200,000 metric tons of grain, which CEO Dmitry Skornyakov said cost his company about $50 million. He said his employees in the occupied Ukrainian city of Mariupol reported the grain was trucked across the border into Russia.

      “To steal it, they just drive to Rostov and Taganrog, small Russian ports, then mix it with the Russian grain and say that that is Russian grain,” Skornyakov said.

      The same appears to be happening at sea.

      Satellite imagery and transponder data shows large cargo ships anchored off the Russian coast rendezvousing with smaller ships shuttling grain from both Crimean and Russian ports, obscuring the true origin of the cargo. Those larger ships then carried the blended grain to Egypt, Libya, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

      Daniel, the former naval officer whose company tracks ships globally, said ship-to-ship transfers of cargo at sea are rare, and are usually tied to smuggling. “When you’re a sanctioned country, you have a much more limited market,” he said. “So if you don’t blend your cargoes or if you don’t hide your origin, you probably have a much smaller market and therefore much lower price.”

      High demand for grain makes it easy for Russians to find buyers, said Oleg Nivievskyi, assistant professor and vice president for economics education at the Kyiv School of Economics.

      “There will be no problem to sell the stolen grain from Ukraine whatsoever,” he said.

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      Turkey’s role in the theft of Ukrainian grain is particularly sensitive because the NATO country has tried to play the role of mediator between the two warring countries.

      Turkey helped broker an agreement between Russia and Ukraine in July to allow both countries to export grain and fertilizer through safe corridors in the Black Sea. The deal did not address the grain Russia has taken from occupied areas. In the last two months Ukrainian officials said more than 150 ships carrying grain have departed from ports they still control, including shipments to Somalia and Yemen, war-torn nations currently facing famine.

      Yet there are also indications the Turkish government itself may be a recipient of disputed grain from Ukraine. AP and “Frontline” tracked trips from Crimea to Turkey by the smuggling ships Mikhail Nenashev, Laodicea and Souria to docks with seaside silos operated by the Turkish Grain Board, a government-run entity that imports and exports grain and other agricultural products.

      The board’s press office and executives did not respond to emails with detailed questions about the suspect shipments.

      Though Turkish authorities have pledged to stop illegal smuggling, Turkey’s foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in a June news conference his country had not found any evidence of theft.

      “We’ve received such claims,” he said. “And such information is coming from the Ukrainian side from time to time. We take every claim seriously and investigate it seriously. ... In our investigation on ships’ ports and goods’ origins, following claims about Turkey, we saw the origin records to be Russia.”

      Whatever the records say, the smuggling operation continues.

      Crane Marine Contractor's ship Matros Koshka — named for a Russian sailor lauded as a national hero for his bravery during the Crimean War of 1854 — cruised north last week into the Black Sea with a listed destination of Kavkaz before turning off its transponder and running dark.

      Satellite imagery taken Thursday showed the 161-meter-long ship (528 feet) had docked once again at the grain terminal in the occupied Ukrainian port of Sevastopol, little more than a mile from a Soviet-era statue honoring its namesake.

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      AP investigative reporters Sarah El Deeb reported from Beirut and Michael Biesecker reported from Washington, and news verification reporter Beatrice Dupuy was in New York. AP reporters Arijeta Lajka in New York, Zoya Shu in Berlin and Ahmad El-Katib in Beirut contributed to this report.

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      Follow Biesecker at twitter.com/mbieseck, El Deeb at twitter.com/seldeeb, and Dupuy at twitter.com/Beatrice_Dupuy"

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        #13
        A world leader sells his house. A world leader is wealthy. A world leaders wife is self made millionaire.

        Nothing to see there not slightest bit unusual.

        Someone will find conspiracy in it

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          #14
          Originally posted by Landdownunder View Post
          A world leader sells his house. A world leader is wealthy. A world leaders wife is self made millionaire.

          Nothing to see there not slightest bit unusual.

          Someone will find conspiracy in it
          Funny how some see through the climate change propaganda, yet trust the same legacy media that have just gas lit them for 2 years. Btw where is Ghislaine Maxwell's client list?
          Last edited by biglentil; Oct 3, 2022, 07:32.

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            #15
            Putin thought he had the propaganda down pat last February when he had us all convinced he could roll his mighty military into Kiev to a welcoming population that wanted to be ruled by the strongman who didn't take shit from a bunch of weak leadership.
            He thought he had been preparing for years and had the whole deal spun up and ready to execute.
            Only he didn't figure on the will of the Ukrainian people to fight back.
            Severely underestimated the ability of the stand up comedian to rally them.
            So you have a former KGB head with experience in war and a propaganda specialist. Seen as one of the strongest world leaders. With a military that is suppose to be ready to rebuild the Soviet Union,
            And a Stand Up Comedian who was just there to keep the graft flowing?

            But nobody thought the people would fight.

            Looks like the comedian is the leader the people will fight for.

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              #16
              Originally posted by biglentil View Post
              Funny how some see through the climate change propaganda, yet trust the same legacy media that have just gas lit them for 2 years. Btw where is Ghislaine Maxwell's client list?
              Why dont you tell the people on the West coast of Florida it is just weather.

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                #17
                Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                With a military that is suppose to be ready to rebuild the Soviet Union,
                And a Stand Up Comedian who was just there to keep the graft flowing?

                But nobody thought the people would fight.

                Looks like the comedian is the leader the people will fight for.
                Putin is sending soviet military surplus still with 1970 era t-72 tanks which wasnt a bad tank 40 to 50 yrs ago. Still takes 3 to 5 javelin hits at 175k each ...wait till they bring In the new t-14 armata tanks or the new su-57 fixed wing aircraft. truth is... nato is fighting soviet era technology while depleting there own industrial war machine. The real military is waiting for when the real shit hits the fan.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                  Why dont you tell the people on the West coast of Florida it is just weather.
                  Agstar, have you actually gone to Florida? Have you seen where these people build their houses? Some are on stilts right in the water. When we were there about 5 years ago many businesses were boarded up from a recent storm at that time. Albeit, this storm was severe, but there’s a good reason that insurance companies don’t cover much flood damage. It’s risky building in a swamp on the edge of the ocean.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                    Agstar, have you actually gone to Florida? Have you seen where these people build their houses? Some are on stilts right in the water. When we were there about 5 years ago many businesses were boarded up from a recent storm at that time. Albeit, this storm was severe, but there’s a good reason that insurance companies don’t cover much flood damage. It’s risky building in a swamp on the edge of the ocean.
                    Been there but not change the facts 1 in 500 year flood according to climate change denier. But but what if it happens again next year. When is it the new norm?

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                      #20
                      what if it doesn't?

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