Curly Moe Can't do math

[chuckChuck]

The reality is at present the world consumes approximately 100 million barrels of oil a day. If government plans a very successful they will lower this to maybe 70 million barrels of oil a day in 30 years after spending hundreds of billions subsidizing the supposed green transition. Obviously there will still be C02 being put into the atmosphere. All they will have accomplished is slowing the rate. This could be done much less expensively by increasing the efficiency of what we do now instead of retooling everything at great expense. The only net beneficiary of the present path will be China and they will be laughing all the way to the bank.

So oil and gas are also subsidized around the world and prices are controlled by a cartel called OPEC.

And the cost of letting human caused climate change continue will be much greater than transitioning.

Unless like A5 you wanna go back to the pliocene?

[Hamloc]

So oil and gas are also subsidized around the world and prices are controlled by a cartel called OPEC.

And the cost of letting human caused climate change continue will be much greater than transitioning.

Unless like A5 you wanna go back to the pliocene?

And Solar and the the metals for building batteries are controlled at over 80% by China. OPEC controls 38% of the world’s oil production! Who would has more control?! If your a disciple of climate change you would realize it will continue regardless because oil will be required until a cheaper more efficient energy source is found.

[jazz]

chucks the only one deficient in math, physics and economics, a deadly trifecta usually found in marxists.

The world will be consuming and extra 20M bbl a day in 25 yrs without the green transition. It will be consuming and extra 50M bbl a day with the green transition to the end of the century. Thats a lock. The future looks very rosy for Ab/Sk energy industry hence Moe wanting to keep the unicorns out of it.

Let them chase their utopia, it will only accelerate the use of our fossil fuels because it sure as hell wont be wind mills and solar panels digging up all those REEs.

And if you think supply chains are fragile now, just wait until we discover that most of those current resources are in Russia, China and central africa. New mines you say, well perish the thought because radicals stop those too just like the natives did in Quebec. 10 yrs lead time to get a mine permitted and thats with no opposition.

I am afraid big oil will be in our future for a long while yet thankfully.

And sure chuck we can go back a few eons if you like. Was a lot warmer before man came on the scene. Or do you deny that.

[WiltonRanch]

If we are warming to an optimum then theoretically we should require less energy for heat. Also if the northwest passage becomes ice free then shipping would require less energy as well. It would be proactive to weatherproof the Churchill line and develop the port. Sadly it’ll never happen because the usual suspects. Russia and China aren’t going away. Maybe they’ll decline but they’ll be important still both for trade and as defence concerns. If there isn’t a concerted effort to defend and use the resources of the north the Russians will more so as the climate warms. Chuck you can drone on about whatever the science is and the bad things that can happen but maybe we be proactive on things like this or we’ll lose the northwest passage and it’s resources.