EMA

[jazz]

These last 2 events; Brian Peckfords rejection at the SCC and the EMA clown show have laid bare the dysfunction in the county. Many will cheer for it as some sort of win that our freedoms were trampled. Thats what the marxist element does and we have a big one in this country.

But our fight isnt down east. We cant vote this out and the media will make sure PP doesnt get elected.

Our fight lies with Smith and Moe (and hopefully Mb) working to carve us out of this banana republic both culturally and definitely economically.

[cropgrower]

. 78% of now over 15,000 say no

[sumdumguy]

This inquiry and the lieberals attempts to obfuscate it, makes the Freedom Convoy go down as one of the greatest events in Canadian history. All convoy participants should be proud of their contribution. A huge THANK YOU to men and women of the Freedom Convoy!

10 - 4 Good Buddies.

There’s no like button on my screen.

[littledoggie]

In about a week, the Alberta government will introduce the "Alberta Sovereignty within a United Canada Act" that hopes to create a constitutional shield from Ottawa. Under the constitution, the federal and provincial governments are considered equal when it comes to their exclusive jurisdictions.

[shtferbrains]

Will it get them around environment permits and any other permits that the feds can dream up?

[chuckChuck]

opinion
Don’t bet on the Emergencies Act inquiry hurting Trudeau
Lawrence Martin

Special to The Globe and Mail
Published November 23, 2022
671 Comments

The inquiry into whether Justin Trudeau’s use of the Emergencies Act was justifiable has a rather peculiar look.

Inquiries normally investigate something that went wrong. Not this one. This one is probing an action that worked, that went off with few hitches, that was met, for the most part, with public acceptance.

The issue of whether the Prime Minister had the right to go so far is a big deal with anti-vaxxers and constitutional scholars and, naturally, the Conservative opposition.

But the Canadian public? Around the proverbial water-cooler I haven’t heard anyone obsessing over the question. Most just wanted the occupation to end and most are glad it did and I doubt Mr. Trudeau is shaking in his shoes over how the inquiry report comes down. The sword of Damocles is not about to fall.

Given the testimony, we shouldn’t expect conclusions from Justice Paul Rouleau to be cut and dried. He will be dealing with a lot of grey area legal detail, splitting hairs on this clause and that. What the public is more interested in is justice being meted out to the perpetrators of the occupation and the fumbling response to it of different levels of law enforcement and government, Mr. Trudeau’s politburo included.

The PM’s case has been helped along by the testimony of David Vigneault, the head of our spy service. He first advised the government there was not enough of a threat to justify the use of the act. But then – and how convenient for the PM – he took a mulligan. He invoked a broader definition of what constitutes a threat and gave Mr. Trudeau the green light.

The Emergencies Act inflicted abuses, such as the freezing of people’s bank accounts. But for all the things that anger Canadians about Mr. Trudeau, his getting tough on the Ottawa occupiers does not rank highly, as opinion polls indicate, among them.

The PM is more often criticized for being overly apologetic than overly authoritative. Particularly inexcusable on the latter has been his overcentralizing of power in the Prime Minister’s Office. That’s something previous prime ministers have done as well but that he was supposed to check and didn’t.

On his using the act, also working in Mr. Trudeau’s favour is the climate of the times. The zeitgeist hardly tilts toward civil liberties. The extremism that has gripped the United States, the level of chaos and violence brought on by the rise of fringe groups and their empowerment via social media, has broadened the public appetite for order and regulation.

By comparison to the work of the very stable genius at the White House – Donald Trump’s attempt to shutter democracy, his helping trigger the Jan. 6 mob attack on the Capitol – Mr. Trudeau’s handiwork looks tame. He’s lucky in that he has often benefited from having the mad king as a foil.

The midterm elections in the U.S., with their surprisingly good results for the Democrats, brought a ray of hope that perhaps a return to political sanity is being made in the once great republic. Far-right populism may be losing ground.

It’s something that Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, who has been criticized for aligning too closely with the convoy brigade, should bear in mind. Appeals to radical elements paid off for him in winning the leadership of his party. But P.P. is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks it will win the hearts and minds of the broader sweep of Canadians who have never been strongly ideological or hyperpartisan and are certainly not in these times, having borne witness to the ravages such extremes inflict.

In a recent outpouring, Mr. Poilievre went so far as to say that “everything is broken in this country,” blaming Mr. Trudeau for it all, even the drug problem in British Columbia. There was no mention of the brutal track record of the Conservative Leader’s hard right populist brand of politics in the U.S. or in Brexit-plagued Britain.

Like Mr. Trump, he makes any excesses of Mr. Trudeau look milder than they might. Canadians don’t want flame throwers. The times are too angry. They want calm and order, fairness and compromise, these being hallmarks of our character.

If Mr. Trudeau is found to have overstepped the bounds with the Emergencies Act, it likely won’t hurt him. The people will give him pass, the consensus being that something had to be done to finally end the occupation and deploying the tough measure was a fair price to pay.

[jazz]

You are a good little marxist chuck, now run along, Klaus is calling.

[TSIPP]

How could lying under oath be a problem?

[binthere]

Yes Chuck trudeau wont suffer after this inquiry just like he didn't suffer after interfering with the judicial system in the s.n.c. scandal. What's your point? Your enjoying a primeinister over riding the law and implementing action based on hypothetical cirumstance with actions based on opinion and then making a heart throb word salad justifying himself. You didn't watch every minute of the inquiry did you?

[jazz]

How could lying under oath be a problem?

Its an inquiry, not a court, so people can do whatever they want in there. No repercussions.

But chuck is right. I see the media working overtime to spin this for Trudeau. The report is due in Feb, there will be a lot more spin for him then and I imagine a spring election.

[blackpowder]

It won't touch Trudeau.
But leave it to Chuck to paste an entire globe opinion column that lumps constitutional breach, precedent and morality, with antivaxxers and anti Cons to make it all right.
Crowd-think only dangerous if you're in the wrong crowd?
IF he read all the words, it confirms he is the most dangerous mind here.

[Guest]

Umm
What about the elephant in the room ?
The fact that this juvenile delinquent has mismanaged the country and our finances worse than any other country in the free world?
Will that hurt him , or will the freeloaders vote him in again ?
Can’t believe these arrogant greedy assholes are ok with leaving this mess to their kids/grandkids
Anyone that supports his lunacy needs to be ashamed of themselves
What do you think chuck, this borrowed money will just disappear?
Would you run your personal finances this way?