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    #41
    Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
    I appreciate your work.
    And I recognize that many public "grievances" are federal jurisdiction.
    I do sense that most provincial posturing of late is just making political hay.
    But is Ottawa doing a good job of understanding? Can it?
    The federal areas of responsibility you mention were all held in America by George III until they weren't.
    If natural resources are provincial who's seemingly handcuffing ours?
    Are all provinces equal?
    Or have western provinces been treated like a credit card?

    "Works connecting provinces; beyond boundaries of one province; within a province but to the advantage of Canada/or more than one province"

    Seems they've failed miserably on this one. Who were they listening to here?
    Jodi Raybould seems to think First Nations weren't really listened to either.

    "And for people whose job it is - this is what is troubling. At what point do you spank the kid that won't listen and clean up his room?"

    Where do you start with the spanking?
    Is a Constitution a living document or is it totally inflexible?
    Has one province in our confederation held that document hostage far more than any other?

    Previously I mentioned the 'hillbillies' gaining traction lately.
    I try to have a reasonable approach and even I'm often disgusted lately.
    How do you propose to convince all the others they have no grievances when you can't convince me?
    Does it really feel like the most divisive PM ever,by his words and actions,is listening?
    Standing in the tent pissing out doesn't feel like it's working well anymore.
    When standing up to an abusive partner the first NO is the hardest. NO doesn't debate.
    How well do you feel Ottawa aligns with your beliefs and values? Do you feel listened to?
    If so then good for you. And I can say I know of one person.
    Or is it no one wants to be told what to do by a democratically elected leader no matter the color of their stripe? Think how many people in the US still call Trump their President even though there is only 1 democratically elected President and is the President for all American citizens.

    Canada is no different. The Liberal party has the most seats and with the NDP has a majority if they both agree, Justin Trudeau is the Prime Minister. Yet he is called a traitor and dictator even though he is just doing the job he was democratically elected in Canada to do.

    Now, a premier elected by about 1% of Alberta - and even then just over half the support of that small sample, makes an unprecedented Act that removes the courts from making legal and constitutional challenges to suspend an Act and giver her the full power instead..... Isn't a dictator but a hero by most likely illegally not doing the legislation on a whim that is rightfully decided federally by Canada as a whole.

    The numbers easily show why the carbon tax isn't popular in an area mostly Cons.

    When Research Co. and Glacier Media asked Canadians about the court’s decision, a majority of Canadians (57%) said it was correct, while 29% disagreed and 13% were not sure. Significant majorities of Canadians who voted for the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party (NDP) in the 2019 federal election think the court was right (71% and 70% respectively), while only 32% of Conservative Party supporters share this view.


    So it quite easily shows that Canada supports the Carbon Tax. Why would Alberta think that laws and legislation constitutionally created federally all of a sudden does not apply to them? Do they think laws for murder do not apply as well? The Supreme Court easily says it does.

    Also, municipalities may want to follow federal legislation - and are required to do so - but yet the Province all of sudden says not anymore, you do what ever a handful of MLA's in cabinet want, you no longer have federal law if we don't want you to.

    Best line is "We knew this Act was going to be a dogs breakfast, just didn't know it was going thru the dog first."

    Talking to people in the office here, this is the jist of the concern. Bad legislation, but great politics that plays into the favorite slight of hand with populism of woe is the little guy in AB always down trodden.

    Will be very interesting going forward.

    And there is always Section 33 which makes the SA completely unnecessary if it were not for the sleazy power grab of cabinet. Even Sask used Section 33 for Public/School nwc.
    Last edited by tweety; Dec 1, 2022, 10:22.

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      #42
      Your so called research (cough bias) is impressive.

      Now do Quebec.

      The Bloc just endorsed Albertas SA.

      https://twitter.com/ABProsperityPrj/status/1598179688631144448
      Last edited by jazz; Dec 1, 2022, 10:51.

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        #43
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        Kenney was good as long as he was slinging the mud at Ottawa! Now he is a pig at the trough? LOL

        Convoy and UCP supporters seem to have trouble supporting democracy and the rule of law unless they agree with the results. Their true colors showing.

        Rules are for the other guys!
        I defy you to find a post where I said that freeloader was any good
        I had hope at the start but that soon disappeared
        Don’t put words in my mouth chucky

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          #44
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          Your so called research (cough bias) is impressive.

          Now do Quebec.

          The Bloc just endorsed Albertas SA.

          https://twitter.com/ABProsperityPrj/status/1598179688631144448
          And that's why you're not very good at politics.

          BTW your orange genius just had his taxes released - and they are finding he is the worst businessman ever.

          Also the claims in Arizona with no evidence voter fraud by the dumbest man alive just cost the Republicans 2 seats. They get dumber every day. I can fully see why they are your heroes.

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            #45
            Is there any way to invest in law firms? Particularly constitutional law firms?

            They are going to make a killing over the coming federal provincial feuds. And us taxpayers will have the honour of paying for it all.

            I'm wondering if it is too late to get my law degree and partake in the largesse personally. Since I already have a degree, looks like I only need 3 more years of schooling. This mess should stretch out far beyond that. Or should I just wait until my boys graduate and send them to law school? That would be closer to 10 years all together, probably still be embroiled in this mess by then.

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              #46
              Originally posted by tweety View Post
              And that's why you're not very good at politics.
              So using S45 of the CC is ok if you are banning hijabs and only allowing french speaking people into your province.

              Gotcha.

              You have no idea what you are talking about because you have no skin in any game except grifting.

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                #47
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                Is there any way to invest in law firms? Particularly constitutional law firms?

                They are going to make a killing over the coming federal provincial feuds. And us taxpayers will have the honour of paying for it all.

                I'm wondering if it is too late to get my law degree and partake in the largesse personally. Since I already have a degree, looks like I only need 3 more years of schooling. This mess should stretch out far beyond that. Or should I just wait until my boys graduate and send them to law school? That would be closer to 10 years all together, probably still be embroiled in this mess by then.
                I doubt you are eligible for that work.

                You have to be well connected and know who to send the payments to.
                Just add it to the bill and don't be in a hurry as the more it costs the bigger the kickbacks.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                  I doubt you are eligible for that work.

                  You have to be well connected and know who to send the payments to.
                  Just add it to the bill and don't be in a hurry as the more it costs the bigger the kickbacks.
                  i get the impression chuck doesn't think you're up to the task when he was degrading you

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by caseih View Post
                    i get the impression chuck doesn't think you're up to the task when he was degrading you
                    Before I started debating Chuck, I'm sure I wasn't up to the task.

                    But I have been learning from the best. Deflect deflect deflect. Never answer a question. And if that doesn't work, call you opponent a flat earther. Then close every arguement with lol.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by tweety View Post
                      Can you give an example or 2 of Ottawa not listening that doesn't involve oil?
                      CWB in the west, nothing east of Manitoba

                      Allowing railways to dictate removal of rail lines which created an unnecessary trucking industry which has created degradation of provincial infrastructure and nixed future economic opportunities.

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