Countdown to green anhydrous ammonia

[Hamloc]

I did some quick math from the original article posted by Chuck2.
The system produces 300 kg. a day.
Which works out to 109500 kg. a year.
This works out to 197897 lbs. of actual N.
At 70 lbs. of actual N per acre this would fertilize 2827 acres. Is that worth the $950000 price tag? It could be. A few questions, does it produce 365 days a year? Does it produce more in the summer and less in the winter? It certainly could work. My other concern would be what government regulations apply and how they would change over time.

[WiltonRanch]

Realistically this system would be ideal for a 2500 acre cereal/canola operation. Even more if it grew peas or lentils. If nitrogen stays at $1/lb and increases over time it looks feasible. If and a big if this technology improves over time it should get more efficient and cost effective and if ammonia powered tractors become a thing theoretically a farm could be self sufficient with nitrogen and fuel. Still this is 50 years away and maybe my grandkids will see it beneficial. In the meantime we all suffer with political “solutions”. That is what makes me fearful and angry.

[chuckChuck]

Glad to see that most rational people see the potential of turning renewables into ammonia and hydrogen.

Its early days and too soon to know whether it will be successful.

Most of us will be done farming long before.

Crop producers who got decent weather in the last few years are less fearful than those who didn't.

It was reported this year that Swift Current has been 4 inches below average per year of precipitation in the about the last 10 years. Drier than the thirties.

Those who don't get enough rain year after year should be fearful as the southern prairies gets warmer and drier.

Cattle producers are more fearfull as they can't compete for more expensive land and have relatively little profit year after year. It was reported in the Western Producer that a 200 head cow calf operation generated only $19,000 of net income. You can make more than that working a minimum wage job in most provinces.

Outside the country money and inside investors and oversiszed farms are driving up the price of land. Good if you are selling not so great if you are a young farmer looking to expand without mommy and daddy's help.

Governments currently provide significant support for ag through crop insurance and safety net programs.

The biggest risks we face are weather, price of inputs and markets.

Government policy around climate change is a very small issue relative to all the other risk impacts.

The current rise in energy prices is almost all due to rising oil and gas prices with a smaller portion due to taxation.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Outside the country money and inside investors and oversiszed farms are driving up the price of land.

Interesting comment, ( and spelling). Not sure how this deflection is relevant to on farm ammonia production?
So who gets to decide what is an oversized farm? Jealous, bitter, spiteful envious former CWB socialists who are afraid someone else might work harder than them and get ahead?
Would I qualify as an oversized farm? Easily the biggest grain farm in the county, which is itself, the 4th biggest county in the province. But my farm would fit inside of SF3's farm many times over. And his farm is a dwarf compared to some of the really successful farmers.

[chuckChuck]

So you will happily let oversees investors with Canadian fronts and large corporations take over control of more and more land?

The word is Kambeitz farms have Chinese backing and Monette farms have South African money. And lots of it.

Are you in favour of Chinese investors controlling more and more Canadian farms?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So you will happily let oversees investors with Canadian fronts and large corporations take over control of more and more land?

The word is Kambeitz farms have Chinese backing and Monette farms have South African money. And lots of it.

Are you in favour of Chinese investors controlling more and more Canadian farms?

Those are two completely different issues. I don't see any economic benefit to foreign ownership of farmland or other vital resources.

That has absolutely nothing to do with your socialist aspirations and hatred of anyone who is more successful than you are.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Hell just froze over. A5 admitting renewables might have some value after all! LOL

You know, these discussions could be a lot more fruitful if you ever paid any attention to what other posters say. Such as my own public positions on the potential uses for renewable energy, EV's, etc. Instead of trying to pigeon hole anyone who disagrees with your extreme views.

And on that note, I just saw this from Jordan Peterson, interchange LMAO, for LOL, and it fits:


Ray Blanchard
@BlanchardPhD
·
Dec 9
Why do people keep writing “lmao,” when it is unlikely they are experiencing any such level of convulsive hilarity?
Dr Jordan B Peterson
@jordanbpeterson
·
7h
It's a marker for narcissism. Not unerring, but a marker.
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[fjlip]

"Those who don't get enough rain year after year should be fearful as the southern prairies gets warmer and drier."

How long before MY CARBON TAX makes it rain? Give me a date, NO bullsh it answers, I WANT a date! Now! I am SCARED, can't sleep, calling stress line daily!

Call up your buddy Guilbault, demand a DATE!

[shtferbrains]

That will be about the same time the glaciers stop melting

[chuckChuck]

We need to keep burning more coal to make it rain! Don't you know? Ask A5 he will tell you all about it.

The flat earthers have a hard time connecting the dots between rising CO2 levels and temperatures rising, increasing extreme weather events and climate change.

Just ask the farmers in the southwestern prairies how much they are enjoying the 4 inches below average annual precipitation deficit that Swift Current reported in the last 10 years. A drier period than the 1930s.