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    #31
    Or, you could spend no money, and piss off far less people. Move most on list to Restricted or Prohibited class.
    In another generation or two, problem solved, quietly and cheaply.
    Not much political hay to make tho.
    Last edited by blackpowder; Dec 14, 2022, 10:09.

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      #32
      Doctors killed 15,000 people here last yr and thats not including the people they used ventilators on to drive a virus deep into the patients lungs, or the people they left unattended in care homes while care givers quit en masse.

      Your biggest killer and driver of misinformation is your govt. and the media by far.
      Last edited by jazz; Dec 14, 2022, 10:18.

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        #33
        Now who's off topic?

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          #34
          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          Now who's off topic?
          Not off topic at all. Just showing the false equivalency that people equate with tragic events.

          You know 4m children in this world die before their 5th birthday. I dont see anybody freaking out about that.

          The UN said starvation deaths on the planet would be alleviated with just $40B dollars per yr. Well we send that into Ukraine every week.
          Last edited by jazz; Dec 14, 2022, 10:16.

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            #35
            yes some lives are a lot more important than others
            Last edited by cropgrower; Dec 14, 2022, 10:21.

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              #36
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              Doctors killed 15,000 people here last yr and thats not including the people they used ventilators on to drive a virus deep into the patients lungs, or the people they left unattended in care homes while care givers quit en masse.

              Your biggest killer and driver of misinformation is your govt. and the media by far.
              What a crock of Q'Anon bullshit!

              If you and your family get sick jazzy, stay at home, don't go to the doctor or hospital and don't take any antibiotics cause the doctors are going to kill you! hahahahahah

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                #37
                15,000 MAID deaths chuck, look it up.

                We also have that many opoid overdoses as well and an equivalent number of suicides. And safe injection sites are legal and govt supervised.

                Sorry, your govt is the bigger killer than some guy with a hunting rifle. Statistically just about zero shoulder mounted firearms are ever involved in a violent crime in canada. Its all american illegal handguns, smuggled thru reserves and into Toronto.

                Truth hurts doesnt it. Much as you like to think farmers are going to go on a rampage, the stats dont bear any of that. Some of the tightest policed areas in the country like Peel have staggering amounts of gun crime and drugs.

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                  #38
                  Thats just MAID, medical malpractice at least 28000 more deaths. No out cry. An under 40 was 20 times more likely to die of Fentanyl overdose than covid. No out cry. Alcohol about 15000 deaths a year. No out cry. All Canadian figures.
                  Last edited by biglentil; Dec 14, 2022, 11:42.

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                      #40
                      Frederick Nerk and his meth using Joe Dipstick city decide for some reason they are gonna go on a shooting rampage and kill some other drop kick users and or people.

                      Its darn near impossible for them to buy weapons and harder to buy ammo.

                      Farmer pete i would like a new winchester .308 for fox hunting could go into town 40 kms away to gun shop at 9am today tell propriter i want such a purchase.

                      A few back ground checks some paper work registration at police station walk away 2 pm with your firearm and ammo. PS can be refused.

                      Crims approach farmers to buy stuff and or weapons apparently never happens for fear of all farmers rural people sports shooters losing gun ownership rights sort of self policing and honesty and common sense.

                      my sons best mates dad who im a freind with reckon hes got maybe 20 pieces ranging from antique muzzle loaders right through to high spec latest and greatest.

                      Gut feel as time goes on really think laws will be relaxed even more for farmers.

                      99.9% of times its working in my opinion.

                      Hardened gangsters still shoot each other im sure and always will regardless of laws and restrictions.

                      Have your farm lobby groups and sporting shooters assoctions/gun clubs etc met with politicians asking debating , "how can we make this work" ragther than automatic push back there gonna take our guns talk?

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