australian tragedy

[Landdownunder]

one of the muderous trio was a school principal 18 months ago had a distinguished career in indigenous education the lady still a teacher 11 months ago third guy not sure about him.

People asking how could they "flip" to become anti gov extremists right into what chuck mention QAnon or whatever it is.

The i saw it on the internet must be true types

[Landdownunder]

This cut and paste if from one of Australia's most right wing journalists in a right wing paper.
Canada may not have lunatic ring but by god USA does
PS deleted edited some of the hard hitting stuff to keep it rational

Three innocent people dead. The three perpetrators, also dead, got what was coming to them.

The term that hasn’t been used by police or media to date is domestic terrorism but that is surely what led to the deaths of three innocent people. The incident also stands as a warning on the dangers of cult behaviour and the rapid radicalisation of individuals amplified by disinformation associated with the pandemic.

There has been a media focus on Gareth Train and his online conspiracy laden rants. Whether it’s the Port Arthur massacre as a false flag or babbling about the “Luciferian agenda”, 5G, Bill Gates, fake media, the CIA as a “Jesuit cabal”, freemasonry, Ukraine lies, and secret government depopulation policies through vaccines, it is mere wallpaper.

The belief systems of conspiracists are an intellectual cul-de-sac for rational people. There’s no point trying to comprehend them or seek some truth from them.

After reviewing several of Gareth Train’s posts, I would identify him as a sovereign citizen aligned conspiracy cultist. This mentality, reinforced in social media echo chambers, led to his radicalisation. In turn, it would appear that his wife and brother were radicalised. In the case of the brother, Nathaniel, it seems his radicalisation occurred in the space of just a few months.

Sovereign citizens, sometimes known by their Canadian nomenclature as Freemen on the Land, believe the state and its law enforcement arms have no authority over them.

It’s an amorphous collective. Some sovereign citizens spend their time attempting to find holes in Australia’s constitutional framework. Others engage in doomed but exhausting legal battles with the state or individuals unfortunate enough to have crossed their paths. Some engage in taxation fraud which is how the movement first started in the US in the early 1990s. Many drive the roads unlicensed, their vehicles uninsured and unregistered.

All are living on the fringes of society — geographically, ideologically and culturally. Their numbers are hard to discern but there are various state and federal reports that put the figure at somewhere around 100,000 in this country alone. Not all are dangerous, but many are.

[chuckChuck]

Canada has some of the so call called "freemen" sovereign citizens. There are lots of them in the US in various forms

In Canada their kids go to public schools. They drive on public roads. They use public healthcare. And receive many other benefits from taxpayers.

But they think they don't have to pay taxes or follow the laws that every other citizen follows. Go figure?

And sometimes they go crazy and think violence is an option.

At their heart they are often far right anti government extremists. Often they are racists, white supremacists and bigots.

And some of the more moderate right wingers express sympathy for some of their views.

Security agencies in both Canada and the USA have identified right wing extremists as the greatest threat for domestic violent acts of hate and terrorism.

[WiltonRanch]

Canada has some of the so call called "freemen" sovereign citizens. There are lots of them in the US in various forms

In Canada their kids go to public schools. They drive on public roads. They use public healthcare. And receive many other benefits from taxpayers.

But they think they don't have to pay taxes or follow the laws that every other citizen follows. Go figure?

And sometimes they go crazy and think violence is an option.

At their heart they are often far right anti government extremists. Often they are racists, white supremacists and bigots.

And some of the more moderate right wingers express sympathy for some of their views.

Security agencies in both Canada and the USA have identified right wing extremists as the greatest threat for domestic violent acts of hate and terrorism.

I agree domestic terrorism is our greatest threat. From both right and left extremism. White supremacists to eco terrorists. Pro lifers bombing abortion clinics to animal rights groups like ALF wrecking the horse slaughter house in Texas. Right now the focus is on the right wing nuts cause balance of power is held by left leaning governments. Will change when pendulum swings other way. As I had replied to you before about how we will condone the bad actors on the side of the political spectrum we inhabit, it is a problem for all of us. Foreign meddling doesn’t help neither.

[Landdownunder]

A chilling video has come out posted 3 hours before the event.

BLM nutters Eco terrorist nutters right wing conspiracy nutters Islamic nutters all a threat at times.

Im right wing voter and shall remain that way, a fence sitter on covid nowadays but kill innocent people for the cause NO.

Oppostion leader in our parliment a "true" right wing conservative leader has come out today to support the govt and moives to stamp out online conspiracy groups but somehow maintain free speech, a difficult job, hes livid about some of the anti vaxx crap govt poisioning children on purpose etc etc.

He is or was a distinguished ex police officer. Blue lives matter coming coming through.

Could post more cut and paste wont bore you with it. Time to close the thread. Really rattled australia to the core this one. People didnt believe it could happen here

[Landdownunder]

A chilling video has come out posted 3 hours before the event.

BLM nutters Eco terrorist nutters right wing conspiracy nutters Islamic nutters all a threat at times.

Im right wing voter and shall remain that way, a fence sitter on covid nowadays but kill innocent people for the cause NO.

Oppostion leader in our parliment a "true" right wing conservative leader has come out today to support the govt and moives to stamp out online conspiracy groups but somehow maintain free speech, a difficult job, hes livid about some of the anti vaxx crap govt poisioning children on purpose etc etc.

He is or was a distinguished ex police officer. Blue lives matter coming coming through.

Could post more cut and paste wont bore you with it. Time to close the thread. Really rattled australia to the core this one. People didnt believe it could happen here.

[biglentil]

Yes very sad 6 innocent lives lost. Im sure it has really shocked Aussi to its core. But were you aware of the 15300 excess deaths in Australia in 2022 above the norm? I guess thats not worthy of coverage the MSM in Australia. Not to mention a collapsing birth rate and an exploding miscarriage rate. Nothin to see here folks move along. Conspiracy nutters.

[biglentil]

How bout this litle doozy mallee? Or has the crazy conspiracy nutter received 100 times the media coverage? The only two pregrant women I know both jabbed while pregnant still births. Both traumatized.

[fjlip]

Just can't LIKE those posts, very tragic.

Verify the stats for us landdownunder

[Landdownunder]

Stats Theories Viewpoint none of it gives you the right obligation or need to kill innocent people to further your cause.

And sadly cant believe im saying this but 3 innocent lives lost not 6. The online rant last night after the initial 2 officers were killed and the good samaritan basically said bring em on were are gonna kill every single police officer that enters.

No loss.

Rot in hell.

Does this change my opinion about those who are anti vaxxer not at all. None of you are extremists. Respect your opinions and your rights.