couldn't resist furrow

[Guest]

really wanna see chucky baby's reply to this , so brought it to the daycare

[fjlip]

Exactly same CORRUPT sh it with Lieberals/Turdo here!

[jazz]

Buuuut Ukraine is a plucky democracy with a freedom fighter leading it.

I am sure they didnt take any illicit funds. Pinky swear.

What a joke.

[shtferbrains]

[QUOTE=jazz;556207]Buuuut Ukraine is a plucky democracy with a freedom fighter leading it.

I am sure they didnt take any illicit funds. Pinky swear.

What a joke.[/QUOTE

Ukraine has been the most corrupt WHITE country in the world.
All of us know Ukrainian's that have been here for different times from many generations to just off the plane.
But they do fight for thier homeland.
Why do you think we should abandon them and let Putin get his cut of everything that happens there?
What they have now is far from perfect but they have never wanted to be Russian.
The Donbas is disputed as the Soviet's developed the rich resources.

[fjlip]

What does this map show? Nothing cut and dried, black or white. It's been in conflict FOREVER.

[shtferbrains]

The Soviets made them speak Russian at school.
That's like saying the Ottawa Valley should go back to France.
The Donbas is like Northern Ireland.
The British emigrated there because they were given big endowments by the crown.
The Irish hate them for being there.
But English is the predominant language.

Europe is a quagmire but Putin thinks he should get a cut of everything that happens in the lands he controls.
No different than the drug cartels.
Does Zelenkyy skim?
No doubt.
But why do the people continue to fight and die?

[fjlip]

They have been fighting and dying for centuries... watch this and the next few videos, there has NEVER been a solution, what is the RIGHT border in any of these countries?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=video+timeline+of+russian+empire&docid=608037867679601026&mid=B3CE69207DF81C70EBE8B3CE69207DF81C70EBE8&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?&q=video+timeline+of+russian+empire&docid=608037867679601026&mid=6C2B8B88230BC7E918D26C2B8B88230BC7E918D2&view=detail&form=VDQVAP&rvsmid=B3CE69207DF81C70EBE8B3CE69207DF81C70EBE8&ajaxhist=0

[foragefarmer]

What does this map show? Nothing cut and dried, black or white. It's been in conflict FOREVER.

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I guess you could say that for every country on the planet.

Maybe your farm land should have a war waged against by the First Nation Peoples of today. Their ancestors made claim to it and spoke their native language on it long before your ancestors walked their sorry asses off the boats.

You like that logic Fjlip?

[fjlip]

Same for your sorry ASS. Applies to dam near every spot on earth.
All the native tribes butchered, ra ped and pillaged each other for thousands of years.
Man is greedy and violent species.
Embarrassing isn't it?

[makar]

What does this map show? Nothing cut and dried, black or white. It's been in conflict FOREVER.

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My dad was born in the far left corner of that picture 40 miles north into Belarus 15 miles east of brest, whole place Ukrainians. Polish decided it was theirs 1918-39. Grampa was in the polish army. Not by choice. Gramma said you had to look to what flag was in the courtyard to know what country you were in. There is a big swamp at the border of Ukraine, have neighbors that said lived in five different countrys and never left the house. Those people have never known peace. If they have no one to fight with they fight with themselves. Human nature is a sad thing.

[foragefarmer]

Same for your sorry ASS. Applies to dam near every spot on earth.
All the native tribes butchered, ra ped and pillaged each other for thousands of years.
Man is greedy and violent species.
Embarrassing isn't it?

What's embarrassing is your cut and pastes at every opportunity justifying Putin's invasion and genocide of the Ukrainian people.

You and your buddies on Agriville trying to make yourselves feel good by stating your all searching for the truth in Putin's invasion, while 8 Million Ukrainians have been displaced to other countries and millions of others suffer daily horror.

Simple truth is you're all just mad at the world because your political parties are not in power right now and would rather support dictators and commie leaders!

[makar]

The Soviets made them speak Russian at school.

?

The polish made my dad speak polish in school, history keeps repeating itself nobody listens.

[furrowtickler]

I guess you could say that for every country on the planet.

Maybe your farm land should have a war waged against by the First Nation Peoples of today. Their ancestors made claim to it and spoke their native language on it long before your ancestors walked their sorry asses off the boats.

You like that logic Fjlip?

Your ancestors were the same sorry asses , unless your simply a troll with no skin in the game

[fjlip]

"Their ancestors made claim to it and spoke their native language on it "

I got that one covered forage, wife is Metis, she says her ancestors are okay with my family farming their sacred lands.

[fjlip]

My dad was born in the far left corner of that picture 40 miles north into Belarus 15 miles east of brest, whole place Ukrainians. Polish decided it was theirs 1918-39. Grampa was in the polish army. Not by choice. Gramma said you had to look to what flag was in the courtyard to know what country you were in. There is a big swamp at the border of Ukraine, have neighbors that said lived in five different countrys and never left the house. Those people have never known peace. If they have no one to fight with they fight with themselves. Human nature is a sad thing.

My grandparents on both sides were from an area just above the cross hatched SW corner of Ukraine. Might be also called Galicia. They spoke all those languages. For a while it was Poland. There was NO Poland for many years prior to WW1, it was the other countries that redrew borders and made a Poland, redrawn again after WW2. As you say and as history shows, borders moved many times. See above timeline vids.
Both grandfathers were forced to fight in WW1 with the Austrian army. Both survived. Families came with virtually zero possessions like many. They got out between wars, missed the next bloodshed.

Ukrainian family just came to Wadena, they stayed in Krakow Poland since March, got all papers done to end up here. Cousins here all helped. Their daughter, SIL and child live and work in Krakow. They just walked away from all possessions. Conflict is the curse of humanity.