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    #11
    Oil and gas run out. The wind and sun will last for ever in human terms. So they can be recycled and replaced with better technology.

    Some are suggesting that abandoned oil and gas sites be repurposed to wind and solar sites when it makes sense because a lot of the infrastructure is there already. It is already happening.

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      #12
      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
      No farmers are not the problem, but I'll pose the question to you that farm in SK and AB haven't the abandoned pump jacks and leases polluted your countryside?

      I feel that green energy will make up a portion of our needs one day maybe (25-50%) , but fossil fuels will always be needed.
      and that is the cold reality

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        #13
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        Oil and gas run out. The wind and sun will last for ever in human terms. So they can be recycled and replaced with better technology.
        the remains of you will be 10 or 15 generation of a tree by then
        the need for oil will be a distant memory

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          #14
          So chuck will the resources needed for green energy and the land fills required for the green unrecyclable waste last forever?

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            #15
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Oil and gas run out. The wind and sun will last for ever in human terms. So they can be recycled and replaced with better technology.

            Some are suggesting that abandoned oil and gas sites be repurposed to wind and solar sites when it makes sense because a lot of the infrastructure is there already. It is already happening.
            Recycled ??


            Do they magically turn back into all the raw materials they came from ? From the open pit mines where they were extracted?

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              #16
              Originally posted by caseih View Post
              and that is the cold reality
              Still going to need petro chemicals, but i would say that other sources of energy will eventually replace fossil fuels almost completely.

              Once storage of renewables becomes more cost effective they can play a bigger role.

              The sun is a massive source of unlimited energy. And nobody can ignore that potential.

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                #17
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                Recycled ??


                Do they magically turn back into all the raw materials they came from ? From the open pit mines where they were extracted?
                Yes they can be recycled all it takes is the will do it.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Yes they can be recycled all it takes is the will do it.
                  Can you kindly provide some examples? How are the concrete bases, rebar, and composite blades recycled? And how much energy input would the recycling process require?
                  Chemistry must have changed since I studied it. I wasn't aware that "will" is capable of overcoming or reversing chemical reactions.
                  Is this similar to your "believe in" global warming mantra?
                  Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Dec 23, 2022, 10:52.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    Can you kindly provide some examples? How are the concrete bases, rebar, and composite blades recycled? And how much energy input would the recycling process require?
                    Chemistry must have changed since I studied it. I wasn't aware that "will" is capable of overcoming or reversing chemical reactions.
                    Is this similar to your "believe in" global warming mantra?
                    So why the big concern about the materials used in renewables which aren't all being recycled?

                    You never seem to express concern about all the other waste items that other industries generate and send to the landfill.

                    Just how are you planning to clean up the tar sands spill ponds in Alberta? Let alone pay for all the suspended,orphaned and abandoned wells in Alberta? Like a good fiscal conservative, you want taxpayers to subsidize the cleanup? LOL

                    But you insist on all materials used in renewables must be recycled? What a convenient double standard you have A5. You are a phony when it suits you, plain and simple.

                    And many of the materials in wind mills can be recycled. The concrete can be crushed, the metal extracted, the steel in the towers, the copper and probably the composite blades will be designed to be recycled too.

                    So you lost on that point.

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                      #20
                      Wind turbines don't last for ever, and they are difficult to recycle. The industry is trying to figure out what to do with them.

                      we're talking about the here and now
                      more chuck shit

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