Year in review: hearing hard truths about First Nations farmers

[Sheepwheat]

For sure accountability on many reserves is lacking.

But so is governance and accountability in some RMs. Should the provincial government enforce more accountability at the RM level because in many cases there is almost no understanding of what conflict of interest means. Most Councillors would complain like hell if the province stepped in.

Again its not just a question of accountability with first nations. Many of you including Tom fail to understand that the problems facing first nations goes well beyond the running of reserves.

Systemic racism in the wider community is one of the problems. Along with under funding of housing, infrastructure, education and healthcare.

It is a shared responsibility.

Which side is raised and taught to detest the other side? That needs to stop. Good luck with that.

[shtferbrains]

Even with the obvious problems at RM'S they are the most accountable for our tax dollars we provide.
Please don't get the federal or provincial governments any more involved as that never makes thing more efficient.

[chuckChuck]

That is what reconciliation is about.

And the younger generations are learning the history and stories and attitudes are changing on both sides.

When Conservative Steve Harper made that apology for residential schools it was a watershed moment.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Some interesting hypocrisy from the left related to this topic in the news lately.
Friedland is publicly upset that people keep bringing up her Nazi grandfather.
And I happen to agree with her on this one. It is not fair to smear her with the crimes of her grandfather from 80 years ago.
However, as we see from the discourse on this thread, all white people are being accused of the crimes of our ancestors. Even white people whose ancestors weren't even in this country when these crimes took place.
In both cases, it is not fair to judge the actions by the standards of today. It is not hard to understand how ethnic ukrainians could have had sympathies for the Nazis as the lesser of the two evils, after all they had been through at the hands of the soviets. What a terrible situation to be in, you have to choose allegiances, between two different monsters.

[Sheepwheat]

That is what reconciliation is about.

And the younger generations are learning the history and stories and attitudes are changing on both sides.

When Conservative Steve Harper made that apology for residential schools it was a watershed moment.

Nothing changed. Since the apology, it’s gotten worse. The apology meant nothing to one side, nothing at all.

Revised history is different than true history.

[shtferbrains]

These people must have been at your place yesterday Chuck.
You have a very clear view of what is going on out at the rez.
But maybe viewed from a long ways away.
More the big picture?

[sumdumguy]

[QUOTE=chuckChuck;557679]Easy to say Tom because you probably had all the privilege of growing up in a stable family, with a good home, education and a supportive successful community that didn't have as many social problems to overcome.

Yes, you are right, we live what we are taught. There is a genuine will in the native community amongst some to live a good life and that should be supported. You just have to look around and see both good and bad in all communities. The other day I had to slip a poor white guy a nice Uk Xmas present cause he was so destitute. We do care about our fellow man but we can’t do everything for them. Our welfare system is there to look after unfortunates and some depend on that safety net. And that’s fine but some are striving to overcome the effects of their upbringing and that too must be supported. I’d rather support the natives who need help before others.

[chuckChuck]

Its not just the history of mal treatment of fist nations, it's the current treatment and systemic racism as well.

But of course a lot of conservatives want to make it an issue of personal responsibilty and blame fisrt nations instead of accepting that we created a lot of the problems and continue to cause a lot of the problems.

Its a case of blaming the victim instead of admitting we were and are complicit as a society of mistreating first nations.

[cropgrower]

well i grew up in ireland , i am certainaly not to blame for anything that was done to the first nations folk here , in fact the irish folk had terrible things done to them also

[Sheepwheat]

Hiring natives to tin my barn roof is for sure “systemic racism”.